6,340 Garden Web Discussions | Growing from Seed

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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

First, I don't grow these, but U of Idaho suggests:

= " best sown as soon as it is ripe in a cold frame. Stored seed requires 2 months cold stratification. When they are large enough to handle, prick the seedlings out into individual pots and grow them on in the greenhouse for at least their first winter. Plant them out into their permanent positions in late spring or early summer, after the last expected frosts.

Germination of freshly harvested seeds occurs 3-6 weeks after seeding and is generally good (50-90%), Stratification is not required if fresh. Seed viability remains good for about 1 year after harvest, but declines rapidly in succeeding years."

If you do chose to store for a few months and not sow immediately, cool and dry for storage. If you are in a humid warm climate, that site may be sealed in a container in your refrigerator after drying....just an envelope on my desk works for seeds for me, my house is on the dry side.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2012 at 2:41PM
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jplayland

Any seedlings yet? I wish my haskap had some berries. I want to seed a little on the woods edge and in clearings on my property. It would be a nice addition to all the wild raspberries.

How did you collect the seeds? Blender? Any extras you might sell/trade?

    Bookmark     June 29, 2012 at 12:39PM
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kchd(7b/8a MS)

Are your seeds still in the little spherical seed husks? Try cracking them open (there should be 2 seeds inside), soak them in water for 24 hrs, then sow. See if that helps.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2012 at 6:49PM
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susan2010(6 Massachusetts)

Zinnias? Yes, they work very well just sprinkled. Just make sure the soil in the bed is fluffy, not at all packed down.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2012 at 9:45AM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

I think it helps a lot if you have the time, energy, patience, whatever to push each one down just low enough to brush a bit of dirt over it. If I don't, the birds and/or squirrels eat most or all of my seeds, or they just bake in the sun without enough moisture to instigate sprouting. With tiny seeds, that's impractical though.

If the spot I want to grow in is mulched, I rarely have any luck without starting in pots first.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2012 at 10:38AM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

Not at all, plenty of time. It only takes about 6 weeks to go from sprout to flower with these. The more heat, the better. Are your sprouts getting enough sun?

    Bookmark     June 27, 2012 at 9:28AM
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yiorges-z5il

There are 2 types of marigolds (1) the African/American which is tall growing and (2) The French type which is shorter in height .....Plant the French Variety
Other causes is not enough light (SO move into full light).... OR to much fertilizer ...SO...(use water to leach the soil of the excess fertilizer)

    Bookmark     June 26, 2012 at 2:05PM
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iluvbonsai(z7b VA)

I guess I'll wait until late winter to start them. Thanks for the help morz8.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2007 at 3:23PM
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Politicat

My golden raintree stands along (no other rain trees), grew for 14 years before the golden fronds bloomed, but it has been glorious every year since. If anyone wants pods/seeds, since it isn't contaminated by other "green" raintrees, I'd be glad to send. Just let me know.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2012 at 8:29PM
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dmg361

Would it be a good idea to grow them during winter indoors? Or should I wait until next season?

    Bookmark     June 24, 2012 at 7:36PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

I start my snaps seed in January, in the greenhouse, for spring flowering before weather gets too hot for them. Most of mine I will set out as four inch pot size in October for a whole winter of blooming. Winter temps here are seldom below 25 degrees. Al

    Bookmark     June 25, 2012 at 9:52AM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

HI & welcome to Gardenweb. Pansies like cold weather, so unfortunately that may not go well at this time of year. You might want to try another batch in the fall, when you get the most "bang for your buck." They should last until it gets too hot next summer.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2012 at 10:08AM
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chervil2(z5 MA)

The seed must be fresh. You can store seed in a freezer to extend the vitality. Sow in germination medium and keep evenly moist. I wrap the container in a plastic bag until the seeds germinate. The seedlings are tiny and grow slowly at first. Sometimes my pansies over winter and so it could be worthwhile to sow them now and enjoy the flowers in a few weeks from now.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2012 at 1:21PM
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yiorges-z5il

The ultimat source for growing carnations is the "Ball Red Book" but I have not seen a copy for over 20 years.....
Outdoors grow 2-6 ft apart in full sun & rich sandy,well drained soil. Keep well watered. Inndoors, grow in full sun, in cool environment and keep soil evenly moist.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2012 at 2:19PM
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susan2010(6 Massachusetts)

What I do with my window boxes is plant/start annuals (right now dwarf sunflowers and nasturtiums but you can check a local nursery to see what does well in your climate) in a series of square nursery pots (I can fit 5 in each window box). That way I can switch out one or all of the plantings if something fails to thrive, gets played out, or the critters get to it.

I like annuals for the quick shot of color and the fact that window boxes are not really deep/big enough for perennials.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2012 at 9:14AM
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started_with_bean(Zone 5--MA)

I'd recommend portulacas/moss rose or gazanias. They are both sun and heat lovers, and they don't have deep roots.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2012 at 1:54PM
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docmom_gw Zone 5 MI(5)

Are you looking for some place like Seed Savers Exchange? They offer some vegetable seeds through a public catalogue, but they also have hundreds or thousands of members who grow heirloom varieties of all kinds of vegetables and grains and fruits, and exchange them with other members. Hope this helps.

Martha

    Bookmark     June 17, 2012 at 7:18PM
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indica_2010

thanks yiorges,

zinnia thumbelina - I have them equidistant on 4 edges of pot. wud it be ok if I leave two of them in that pot and transplant the other two?

and the pinwheel zinnia - they look close now in the 8"pot. Wud it be ok if I leave one in this pot and transplant the other three into a single 10" pot - like a triangle in edges of pot?

I also wanted to ask re - nasturtium spacing in 14" hanging basket. I have 2 baskets - one with 4 seedlings and other with 6 seedlings. it is nasturtium whirlybird mix, packet says ht-12". how many seedlings wud I have to thin out?

Thanks again for any suggestions.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2010 at 10:09PM
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JoyceLovesHerbs

I have long used GardenWeb, but this is my first time posting.

My mom always starts zinnias from seed in her greenhouse, but this year we just haven't had time to get the garden ready to put them in the ground. She gave me several seedlings that are leggy from not enough sun and they desperately need to be planted! I planted several in a spot that gets about 5 hours of morning light and afternoon shade. My question is: can I put one or two of these seedlings in containers that already have herbs (basil, sage, other sun loving herbs)? Will they be OK or will they have to compete too much for sunlight/root space?

    Bookmark     June 15, 2012 at 3:36PM
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greencubes

Hiya '67. A couple of questions back at you: Have you used that moo-nure from Home Depot before in your soil blocks? If so, ok, check. If not, cow manure can stunt a plant in a compressed soil block due to the excessive nitrogen still needing to be broken down and unable to do so in a less oxygenated environment like a soil block. Then, maybe you're using the fish emulsions too soon, overfertilizing them and causing nitrogen burn. Also, maybe you're compacting the block too much, leaving no chance for a tap root to break free. Inspect the seedling: are the roots stunted too? Did they ever come out of the blocks at all? Were they brown when they did? Brassicas are quite fine in soil blocks really, but you don't need to fertilize them for about 4-6 weeks. If it was me, I'd skip the cow manure, or at least use much less, and try worm compost, worm castings, home-made aged compost, or even good rich garden topsoil. Let me know if this helps: don't give up!

Here is a link that might be useful: Soil Block Makers

    Bookmark     June 13, 2012 at 7:31PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Geranium pratense (like Splish Splash) - Geranium pratense, 64-71F, if no germination after 4 weeks, move 39F for 4-6 weeks, then move 41-53F for germination. They may not germinate well for you in hot weather.

Penstemon grandiflorus (like Shell Leaf) - Surface sow 8 weeks @ 40F is the typical suggestion, light may be beneficial to germination. Can you provide the cool temps this time of year (approx the same as your refrigerator, but as far as I can tell, there is no light on inside with the door closed :))

    Bookmark     June 13, 2012 at 5:04PM
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sjc48

For years I tried growing pansies/violas from seed, indoors. Tried everything, never very good germination. 2 years ago I Wintersowed them, and couldn't believe the germination I got. This year I did 16 containers of pansies/violas, took me a whole day to plant them out, the germination was at least 90%. To me, it only makes sense, pansies/violas are a cold weather plant. Pansies are my favorite flower and now I can have as many as I want. I'll never sow them any other way.
Shirley!

    Bookmark     June 10, 2012 at 7:17PM
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bookjunky4life(5 Central IL)

I wintersowed five containers of primrose and got very high germination. They were planted out probably three weeks ago and are thriving.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2012 at 10:45AM
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