6,340 Garden Web Discussions | Growing from Seed

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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

Mine did well sowed in place in late March or early April. Lasted until late July.

    Bookmark     October 26, 2011 at 9:17AM
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rjs55555(5b)

If you are like me. I thought I had the same problems, found out it germinated, but the slugs made it disappear as soon as it came up. I can start it in pots but it is impossible in the garden.

    Bookmark     November 9, 2011 at 1:37PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

All my hydrangea are started from cuttings. When I saw your post, I started looking for hydrangea seeds, and could not find any supplier or even a reference to them. Maybe someone with a different experience will show up. Al

    Bookmark     November 9, 2011 at 10:10AM
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FshyPlnts(5, 6)

I have grown a number of pineapple from tops in my aquaponic system. From all the research I have done, I have found that pineapples can take at least 20 years to mature and fruit. This can take even longer in colder climates. I am very impressed with how beautiful your plant is growing however! Have you grown any of these plants in the past? Did they fruit well?

Here is a link that might be useful: Here is a really helpful link for pineapples

    Bookmark     October 26, 2011 at 11:17PM
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erict

calistoga, he just wanted to show off! :)

Also, your baby tangerines look like they need a little more light.

And I'm drooling at the apple. I want to try a Prunus specimen now!

    Bookmark     November 3, 2011 at 10:54AM
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marricgardens

Thanks Jeanne. I did get some dried seed pods from a friend last year and started a few but would like to start more. I have seen pictures of the flowers, beautiful! These trees have not only nice, fragrant flowers but nicely shaped and coloured foliage, I'm a foliage person. I've managed to collect about 20 seed pods so hopefully one will be good to use. Marg

    Bookmark     October 30, 2011 at 12:19PM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

I observed some seed will germinate almost immediately when quite fresh. I don't know about norther catalpa but you might find it interesting to take a few seed, nick or scratch them and plant them right now.

    Bookmark     October 31, 2011 at 3:30PM
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art33(6)

Ginny, the following is a quote from http://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-germinate-poppy-seeds

"Poppy seeds are relatively sensitive to temperature. Poppy seeds will germinate in temperatures of about 60 to 68 degrees F during the daytime. Nighttime temperatures should average between 38 and 45 degrees. If temperatures are much colder or warmer than this, it will result in poor germination and loss of seeds."

Hope this helps,

Art

    Bookmark     October 27, 2011 at 2:03PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

I have a greenhouse with a 70 degree heatpad that I use for starting cuttings and seeds that ask for that temperature. For poppy seeds and lots of other native seeds, they start better if I start them outside the greenhouse with only the temperature nature provides. One of the advantages of living in coastal California, is the lack of temperature extremes. Al

    Bookmark     October 31, 2011 at 9:25AM
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neal_2006

Fuyu Persimmon only needs one tree to bear fruit. Mine does. I don't think you need 2 trees for that.

    Bookmark     August 24, 2007 at 1:09AM
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typhun

I wonder persimmons need to have male and female plant to bear fruit??? I have only one plant and it has plenty of fruits.

    Bookmark     October 29, 2011 at 5:01PM
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sophiera

I gave them about over a month, since most sites say germination time is about 10 days.

Doesn't it need sunlight to germinate? Or artificial light will do? The design of my house is done in such a way that no direct sunlight gets through the windows. It is cooler in the house if the air cond is on, but it's not always on.

Sometimes the house is warmer than outside, depending on the weather; it's rather erratic during this time of the year.

    Bookmark     October 25, 2011 at 11:08PM
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goblugal(7)

Perhaps the problem is the seed that you harvested. Maybe it wasn't ripe, or isn't viable for some other reason. Good seed should germinate quickly.

    Bookmark     October 26, 2011 at 12:49PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Susan, a specific seed starting mix isn't the normal product used in winter sowing or sowing outdoors. You may have found a potting mix with a pre emergent included but I've never seen it in any of the brands I've purchased and I don't think it's typical. You make a good point for reading the labels though ;)

    Bookmark     October 21, 2011 at 1:50PM
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zzackey(8b GA)

Wow! I sure got a lesson in Liatris! Thanks! We have some growing in a patch we let go wild in our front yard. I always wondered why there weren't more of them. We recently went for a drive and saw tons of them growing near the ditches. I guess moisture does play a major factor in their germination. Thanks morz.

    Bookmark     October 25, 2011 at 2:17PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

I don't really get enough summer heat to make them truly happy and only grow them occasionally, but -

"Zinnias will cross-pollinate. Gardeners should only grow one variety at a time to save pure seed, or isolate varieties by 1/4 mile. "

    Bookmark     October 22, 2011 at 5:15PM
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doriswk(5)

Oh great, thank you for pics and info!I can now clearly see the tan colored Echinacea seeds. I had rubbed them off the flower head, together with the black spikes. It will be a job to separate them... or, since there is plenty, should I start all over ? But how do you poke the seeds out from between the spikes without also getting the spikes ? I don't seem to see well enough...
Re: portulaca, how do you know when the seeds are ripe? Yesterday I had collected several of these soft " buds" and left them in an open paper bag to dry. I just looked again, some of these "buds"are still very soft, when I squeeze them they turn into a mushy mess with nothing remotely like a black seed in sight. However, I can also see some tiny black dots sticking to the inside of the paper bag....obviously some of the buds contained them, but which ones? In other words, what am I looking for that will contain ripe seeds? It's pretty cool and rainy now here in Toronto, the portulaca stopped blooming a while back, I am assuming that the seeds should be ripe now, unless they already fell to the ground?

    Bookmark     October 14, 2011 at 7:17PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

The ripe pods would be open, they would split if they have spilled their seeds. Look for some intact, and while not completely brown and dry looking, look for those at least more yellow green than green. Open one, see if the seeds inside are black and mature to get an idea of which will have the ripe seeds.

If you are finding them unripe, another way to avoid missing the ripe seeds before they are released from the pod and spilled onto the ground, bag the end with the pod (s). Take a square of nylon stocking and a twist tie, that way you can leave it on the plant ripening until the last possible minute and not risk losing the seeds.

I have a lot of unripe monkshood and turtle head pods right now, I'll be bagging this weekend with the weather getting iffy so I don't lose them in a Fall storm where I'm not paying attention.

    Bookmark     October 14, 2011 at 7:56PM
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terrene(5b MA)

Hi Tom, I got mine at the local 5 & 10, an ancient, ramshackle store that is stuffed to the gills with practically everything. But you can find them online, Amazon and Walmart etc. have them. They're called "coin and small parts envelopes".

They are more expensive than the plastic zip bags, but paper might be a better storage material because it allows the seeds to breath. But I have good results with both. Storing seeds in the fridge maintains their viability for many years.

    Bookmark     October 13, 2011 at 3:05AM
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kudzu9(Zone 8a - PNW)

I started out using small plastic bags, but I sometimes had mold problems if the seeds had any moisture. Then I used pieces of paper that I cut, folded, and taped. Then I moved on to cutting up larger envelopes, which didn't involve as much cutting and taping. And then I discovered "coin envelopes" at Staples. They measure 2-1/4" X 3-1/2", are made from manila paper, have a gummed flap, and they're just the right size. A box of 500 costs about $17. For me, that's at least a 5-year supply, and it saves me a lot of trouble.

Here is a link that might be useful: Coin envelopes

    Bookmark     October 13, 2011 at 8:06PM
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kudzu9(Zone 8a - PNW)

The best thing to do is to make your own. What you want is a soil block maker. These can be moderately expensive, but it's also fairly easy to make your own from scratch if you're a little but handy. Just Google "soil block maker" and you'll get lots of hits for instructions on how to make your own and to videos showing their use. Below is a link to one reliable source if you want to get an idea of how much they typically cost. The video on that same page is helpful to watch as it shows how you can use different size cubes to "pot up" if you want to.

Here is a link that might be useful: Soil block maker

    Bookmark     October 13, 2011 at 5:04PM
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kudzu9(Zone 8a - PNW)

One other thing. You might want to read these reviews on Amazon for the tool I linked you to in my previous post as the comments give some helpful tips as well.

Here is a link that might be useful: Soil block maker review

    Bookmark     October 13, 2011 at 5:06PM
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newbiegrdnr(8)

i throw them in soil in oct and in few weeks replant the seedlings to my flower beds. I harvested 15 cabages which were started from seed last oct.

    Bookmark     October 13, 2011 at 12:36PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

I don't know what part of the country you are in, ProMix and Fafard are both well liked for sowing those seeds by many who don't want to use a regular seed sowing medium.

Neither are available to me here (No Ace Hardware here either, if they don't stock I think they will order ProMix and let you pick it up for no shipping.), I use the Cornell Peat Light 'recipe' but mixed, bagged for us by a local nursery - I don't have to buy the ingredients in bulk and mix myself.

    Bookmark     October 13, 2011 at 1:52PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

As for the vegetables tossed back into the garden, some may germinate...it will depend on weather, birds, rodents too to some extent, things that would eat the seeds. I've had tomatoes, cukes germinate and grow in the compost pile, not peppers.

If you allow your zinnia seeds to dry thoroughly, then put them someplace cool and dry to store, they should germinate at 70-72F when you sow them in Spring. No pretreatment needed.

    Bookmark     October 4, 2011 at 10:02PM
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muffienh(z5south)

Don't know about zinnia seeds, but I can tell you from experience, be careful where those tomato seeds go. They self-seeded in the garden, the compost and thus plant pots, other parts of the garden. Their tough seeds live through city sewage treatment!

    Bookmark     October 12, 2011 at 6:46PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

The Dowdswell Site is excellent, but keep in mind for growing on the plants if you did achieve germination - NZ has 4 distinct (even if mild) seasons. Their weather is approximately similar to my own. I've purchased their seeds and it's a wonderful company, but sadly it does not sound as though you have the climate to raise the plants if you did manage to germinate seeds.

    Bookmark     October 8, 2011 at 1:58PM
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RLydia

Alright, thanks for the advice!

    Bookmark     October 9, 2011 at 7:54AM
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