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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

Both celery and carrots are commercially grown here along the coast as winter harvested crops. Weeds will germinate long before these crops and overwhelm them as yours are doing. The farmer waits for the weeds to germinate and hits them with a herbicide spray before the carrots or celery have broken ground. This is very effective in weed prevention. Al

    Bookmark     August 30, 2011 at 9:06AM
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soilent_green

I think every gardener can appreciate your situation. If you have seeded veggies in rows, I have found the best way is to get down on the knees on a garden pad and pull them by hand. I can quickly pull the weeds in between the rows and then I focus on the weeds closer to the veggie seedlings. I pull them carefully, one at a time, around the vegetable seedlings. I then hill some soil around the disturbed veggie seedlings and carefully water as soon as possible to minimize plant stress. I think the number one trick is to pull weeds when they are small - they are easier to pull and have smaller root systems so the veggie seedlings are disturbed as little as possible. Once the area is weeded, maintain it by pulling some of the new weeds every time you go to the garden.

If the weeds near the veggie seedlings are too big to safely pull, then cut them off with a pruning shears and continue to remove any new growth until your veggies are harvested.

I do not do block planting so I have no advice to offer you if this is your seeding method other than to remove the weeds when they are young.

Whatever happens, do not give up on gardening. Weeds are very frustrating but you will be better off stress-wise by accepting that this problem will occur every season. Weeds must be dealt with to get a good harvest so experiment and find what works best in your situation. Many, many weed control methods and strategies exist out there and are used with varying degrees of success.

Good Luck!
-Tom

    Bookmark     August 30, 2011 at 6:19PM
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baxb

With annuals that have yet to flower, if i cont to keep pinching them back and cut off any buds, will this give me stronger plants if i manage to overwinter and they survive? Many of them have had a sudden spout of energy and its nearly september now so it quite late in the year. Im thinking to prevent the flowering stage until after last frost so the plant will stil need to bloom to carry on its life stages. Am i right or is this a bad concept?

    Bookmark     August 19, 2011 at 4:54PM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Aha - I have just realised where you live.

The following are hardy annuals or biennials and can overwinter outdoors in the UK: aster, snapdragon, sunflower, poppy, larkspur and viola. However, they will need good drainage and protection from slugs and snails. The dahlia, lobelia and impatiens will die with the first frost. Personally I would not bother to bring them inside as they are highly unlikely to make it through the winter in the house. If you have a greenhouse with above freezing temps they might live over. The shrubs and perennials will be fine and need no help to overwinter. The Fuchsia might die depending on whether it is a hardy variety or not.

It sounds as if you need a good basic book on gardening in the UK. The sweet peas, for example, would have been best sown indoors in late winter. All should be in the ground by now, not in pots, and that may well be part of your problem. You have quite a mixture of plants there some of which need quite different conditions so I'd recommend looking them up. Also some are very easy eg Euonymous fortuneii and some are quite tricky eg Rodgersia. Advice from the US, while sometimes helpful, is often from people unfamiliar with our kind of climate. The whole zone concept means very little in the UK. Theoretically we are in z 8/9 but it doesn't mean much as we do not get the highs and lows of US zones 8/9.

The link is to an article on sowing hardy annuals. You need to look down the page.

Here is a link that might be useful: When to sow annuals

    Bookmark     August 30, 2011 at 11:16AM
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laagarden(5)

Thank you. I pulled out all except 1.

    Bookmark     August 14, 2011 at 11:22AM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Looks like Ragweed, Artemisia ambrosia.

    Bookmark     August 30, 2011 at 10:46AM
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carbonterry(5b)

OK to transplant in a couple of weeks and then mulch?

    Bookmark     August 26, 2011 at 9:17PM
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aquawise(zone 4 Utah)

If these are little seedling we are talking about It would be wise to overwinter them inside. Plant them out come spring.
They will not survive winter weather so small. IMHO

    Bookmark     August 27, 2011 at 10:35AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

One point not made here, only relative to those planting in the garden or in containers, in the garden. When sowing sweet peas, it is wise to bait for slugs at the same time. I have seen gardeners complain their seeds never germinated, when in fact the slugs ate them as they broke ground. Al

    Bookmark     August 26, 2011 at 10:06AM
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dancer40(9)

My problem was it was too hot outside. The ones I left inside just started to sprout up-thanks everyone.

    Bookmark     August 26, 2011 at 11:09AM
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margo_k(5)

Thank you morz8. I will take your advice and sow heavily. Id rather have a lot of good seedlings to choose from and take the best rather than sow just a handful of seeds and end up with only a couple of seeds germinating.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2011 at 10:01PM
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gunboatbay

May I suggest you do a bit of research before planting your seeds. Most coniferous tree seeds need "stratification" before they will germinate. This can be accomplished easily at home by placing the seeds in a small plastic bag (so they won't dry out too much) and putting the bag in the refrigerator for a couple of months

    Bookmark     August 26, 2011 at 9:47AM
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nana8(5)

I have the same question about the new lime colored Echinacea, wondering if they will come true to the same color and form as the parent plant.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2011 at 12:32AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

Seeds can be killed by excess heat. All that was needed was for you put them in a brown paper bag left open and let them dry naturally. There is normally two seeds per hull. I always have several bags of different seeds, in the house drying at this time of year. My wife is not happy with that, but she tolerates it. Al

    Bookmark     August 24, 2011 at 9:23AM
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wally_1936(8b)

I have always found the volunteers to have sharp points all over their leaves where the parent plants do not.

    Bookmark     November 19, 2010 at 8:38AM
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irisbean

I have successfully grown a 6" am. holly tree from a volunteer. Now I need to know if I pinch it back, etc. Can anyone help?

    Bookmark     August 23, 2011 at 10:50PM
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doc_dot(z9)

Thanks for info.

    Bookmark     April 16, 2006 at 4:22PM
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doedouglas51_yahoo_com

grew a seedling from seed, guess i am lucky, did not follow instructions online, just ate my apricot and then planted the seed, but first removed the outside pit, forgot to water the darn thing and it nearly died, have it going again, just been watering it, should i do something more?

    Bookmark     August 23, 2011 at 8:40PM
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leslie_pz(5b NH)

Ordered online a package of Dinner Plate Hibiscus seeds and I popped ONE seed into a pot and within days, it sprouted! Thinking all my hopes were put into this one seedling... what if something happens to it?

So I planted some four more seeds and this time nothing happened as quickly with all (4). Looked up online how slow the seeds are to germinate, I am amazed at how lucky I was the first time!

Here is a link that might be useful: Pea Soup Designs, Hibiscus

    Bookmark     August 23, 2011 at 10:35AM
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leslie_pz(5b NH)

Fairfaxwatch
Are you starting these seeds the same time of year? This time of year the window may be cooking your seeds.

I believe I cooked my second round of pottings by putting them in baggies. The difference was the height of the sun and the temp of the place I put the pots.

    Bookmark     August 23, 2011 at 10:46AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

For most plants, ripe seed will will germinate fresh, without the need for keeping the seed in the dry state. Al

    Bookmark     August 19, 2011 at 9:06AM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

I have just started my kale and collards from seed that just matured a couple of weeks ago.

An interesting tangent, I have see agave and saguaro actually germinate while still in the fruit on the plant.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2011 at 5:14PM
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baxb

Sorry about the double post! Kept crashing whilst trying to submit.

    Bookmark     August 16, 2011 at 3:23PM
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saravancouver

I actually want to ask the same question. I just got some seeds. I know they are perennial. But if I sow the seeds now, will the seedlings survive the winter?

Here is a link that might be useful: vegetable gardening tips

    Bookmark     August 14, 2011 at 12:18AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

laagarden, Papaver orientale is perennial, established plants come back from the roots each year. They often go dormant in summer heat, send out a flush a new growth as weather begins to cool in Fall so I hope you planned for that seasonal 'bare space' when siting yours.

Sara, our seasonal die back and bare ground is much less time than in other parts of the country. The seeds will take about 2 weeks to germinate surface sown at about 68F, if it's much warmer it could take longer - I'm not sure that's likely this year :)

You do run a risk of losing such young plants with a hard freeze as we were exposed to last November, that one was difficult for even some mature established plants. If you sow and plant this season, you may want to be prepared to protect if necessary, pile on the dry leaves, put an upended bucket over them for a few days, or if still in pots, move someplace semi-protected until normal winter weather returns.

    Bookmark     August 14, 2011 at 12:27PM
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mandolls(4)

You should post this on the growing under lights forum - many people there use t-5's

    Bookmark     May 1, 2011 at 8:27AM
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GreenThumb90(7)

I have seen people use t-5 with excellent results! I personally have bought 4 grow lights at walmart for 10 dollars each and saved myself money and alot on my electric bill. I just add heat when needed with a clamp on lamp.

    Bookmark     August 14, 2011 at 1:26AM
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