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davemichigan(zone 6a (SE Michigan))

Morz8, right now I put the seeds in the refrigerator to mimic fall. Do you think after a while I need to freeze them to mimic winter?

    Bookmark     April 24, 2010 at 12:15AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

No, I think you need to take them out of the refrigerator and leave them at room temp for 2 - 4 weeks to mimic Fall...still warmish and rains have started. (First: 64-71F for 2-4 wks)

Then put them into the refer. Approx 40F is cold enough, very few seeds need to actually freeze, most will not be going through the conditioning process until they are not quite so cold so don't use your freezer.

The third stage is the one that is difficult for me indoors...I don't have a good place to achieve that 50ishF range and have to try to time it for late winter-earliest Spring here when I can put the pots outside.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2010 at 11:00AM
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davemichigan(zone 6a (SE Michigan))

Thanks for the info! I will buy one this year.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2010 at 12:13AM
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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

My two mature plants that I bought 4 years ago are now 3-4' round and I taken cuttings to make over 30 other plants. They cuttings are about 2-3' round.

I love them. They keep their neat shape, won't 'take-over', tough plants in regards to no sub. water and light foot traffic ... and you can divide like crazy as stated above.

Keriann~

    Bookmark     April 24, 2010 at 9:54AM
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goblugal(7)

Completely normal

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 12:51PM
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davemichigan(zone 6a (SE Michigan))

Thanks, goblugal!

    Bookmark     April 24, 2010 at 12:13AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Both types can self sow in the right conditions if not deadheaded - I leave the seed pods on my tree peony for additional interest and often get volunteer seedlings around it. If you want to keep the seedlings, be patient - it can take a few years before they begin to flower.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 11:15PM
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oilpainter(3)

Mike:

Soaking the mix every 5-6 days is letting them dry out, Maybe not as much as you do tomatoes but dry out never-the-less

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 5:40PM
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wordwiz

oilpainter,

Not quite true. The mix is only about 1", maybe 1.5" deep. I soak them, to the point water is visible on the top. They do not sit on a heat mat nor have a fan blowing on them. I'm not saying they need to sit in water, only stay more moist than most seedlings do.

YMMV,

Mike

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 9:21PM
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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

Kim you are so right... crazy bright! Too bad the bulbs don't make you tan.. I would move everything into the bedroom lol :)

I have had luck separating seedlings by getting them really wet and 'washing' off the soil. If you really want to save the plants it is messy and takes time but I have found it works out the best in the long run.

You must really love peppers :)

Keriann~

    Bookmark     April 21, 2010 at 5:46PM
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heirloomjunkie(5a)

asfd, how did it turn out? Did you plant up?? I can only imagine how long it took. ;)

Kim

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 8:52PM
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oilpainter(3)

Dave-----

You learn something every day--I never grew barndywines so I didn't know that. Are there other heritage tomatoes that do that? Makes sense doesn't it Potatoes and Tomatoes are relelated after all.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 6:40PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yes there are several open pollinated varieties with PL - Stupice, Matina, German Johnson, Caspian Pink, Pruden's Purple, Grandpa Charlie are a few I can think of off-hand that I have grown although there are many others. Brandy Boy is the only hybrid that comes to mind off the top of my head.

There are other leaf variations too - rugrose, angora, etc. Good pics in the FAQ on Tomato Leaf shapes.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Tomato Leaf FAQ

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 7:17PM
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michelelc

Thanks for the advice! I started these last week, so they haven't developed any true leaves yet. I'll direct sow some in May to be sure to have some. Thanks! How about the cucumber and melons, are they part of the squash family also? Should I direct sow them?

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 9:48AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Should I direct sow them?

Yes. You can start them inside but be sure to get them into the garden ASAP and start them in a container where they can remain until the garden. Avoid the interim transplanting if possible. They are best direct-seeded however.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 2:40PM
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Poppies and PhotosI sent the wrong link
Posted by di-hgse April 23, 2010
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di-hgse

try this one

Here is a link that might be useful: Flower 2010

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 12:38PM
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sleepy33(5b KS)

I think I found my way to them, though, in your 'Flower 2010' album; thanks very much! Very helpful. I will not pull anything resembling that, thinking it's a weed. :)

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 12:39PM
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di-hgse

Hi sleepy33

Well I want out last week and took some pictures of my poppies and a lot of other tress and flowers everything that was blooming. I had to go out a take a few more this week.
I hope I helped you a little
di

Here is a link that might be useful: Look whats blooming

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 12:12PM
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sleepy33(5b KS)

Thanks very much, di; I may just be dense, but I looked at the album and couldn't tell which were poppy... Mine are making (slow) progress.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 12:37PM
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oilpainter(3)

I suppose it would work, if you want the rows that close together and have very soft soil. I wouldn't like my rows that close together. 2 1/2 inches is not very far away to put the rows for some seeds. It might be all right for a few things like leaf lettuce, but I wouldn't use it for peas or beans.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2010 at 6:11AM
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stevec_2007(6)

OK thanks. I'll go pull off their "lids" right now.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2010 at 8:29PM
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sleepy33(5b KS)

I don't know where exactly you're at, stevec, but we've got just the perfect rain up here in Kansas City today; light and lingering for the past few hours. Hopefully it's doing the same at my house in Lawrence and wherever you are! :)

    Bookmark     April 22, 2010 at 2:20PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yep many in the west use the Sunset zones instead as they are more specific to the various regions. Last I checked I think the zone numbers run up into the 30's - maybe more.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Sunset Gardening Zones

    Bookmark     April 20, 2010 at 2:47PM
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joytosew(5MO)

I am perplexed this is the first time I recall reading about sunset zones. Looking at the website given I am in zone 41. I always wondered why I chose to wait till May 10th to really plant summer items and now I know.
This is something I will have to look into some more out of curiosity.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2010 at 10:36PM
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heirloomjunkie(5a)

Are you sure they're spiders and not spider mites?? Spiders shouldn't be a problem, but spider mites definately are. They tend to web on the undersides of the leaves, and make the leaves appear dry or mottled.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2010 at 2:44PM
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oilpainter(3)

If you are seeing spiders they are regular garden spiders and no problem. Most garden spiders are benificial insects and eat bugs that prey on our plants.

Spider mites on the other hand do weave webs but only after plants are badly infected. They are tiny microscopic insects--You can't see with the naked eye. If these are seeds and tiny seedlings I doubt that they are spider mites. You would notice damage to the plant--tiny white spots on the leaves--before you saw the webs.

Heirloomjunkie: The webs of spidermites are from branch to branch. The spider mites live and lay their eggs on the undersides of the leaves. You can tell you have them by running a leaf between your fingers and if they are there it will feel gritty on the undersides. The reason they are so hard to get rid of is that they hatch out every 3 to 5 days.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2010 at 3:28PM
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mustard_seeds(4 -Onalaska Wisconsin)

Hi! I do not have much experience with seeds, but I will tell you that Black Eyed Susans in MY yard are like weeds and I dig out hunks of the edges from them every year to give away on Freecycle (with a warning of how they spread)- I love how they look later summer, but you really have to keep them in check - some might say they're "invasive" in a flower bed.

So, you could possibly ask for some on Craigs or freecycle and have a good chance at getting some plants.

:) Rachel

    Bookmark     April 21, 2010 at 10:33AM
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momstar(5)

Thanks Rachel, good idea. I'll check and see if anyone local has anything I can scrounge. Especially if my babies don't harden off well.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2010 at 11:06AM
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