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aztomn(SE MN 4a)

Very good point! : )

Last year I started a lot of transplants under 4 - 4' bulbs. It became very crowded under there. I am working on a lot more this year and do not have much room or time and was hoping this would give me more area to grow in. I had such good luck I was lead to believe this would only be easier. Natural light should be superior to a bulb, but I am starting to eat my words!

    Bookmark     April 15, 2010 at 7:36AM
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oilpainter(3)

It may have been too hot for your broccoli where you had it, put it at the back. Sunlight coming through the window will be the strongest and hottest near the window and it can raise the temperature by 20 or 30 degrees even if the sides are open. It does little to protect the plants at night, so they are subject to tremendous temperature changes. I know there are people who do this, but it is far from ideal.

    Bookmark     April 15, 2010 at 8:48AM
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sleepy33(5b KS)

Thanks, guys; they must be petunias. I don't remember buying or sowing that many seeds, and the last time I took a look at them, they were doing pretty poorly. So I guess, yay that they pulled through, but if anybody hears of a sale on terra cotta pots, do let me know, cause I am clean outta room for these guys! :)

Keriann- oh, now, you know my australian cattle dog mix just hates tennis balls and is not at all obsessive... How cute, I didn't even notice her little feet down there. She is lying on a welcome mat that is now 'matted' with her hair because I gave her her summertime haircut on the porch; I'm just glad the hair is out there and no longer in my house! Thank goodness for a Dyson.

The wedding flowers are really coming along pretty well. The alyssum has had blooms for just weeks now, and the zinnias are getting nice and big and starting to form buds. The snapdragons have been a bit disappointing; she wanted a variety from the T&M catalogue, and their germination was pretty pitiful. I do have lots of other snaps of my own I can sub in if they don't take off pretty quick. The dwarf sunflowers are still pretty small, but I have faith that they will grow pretty quick. I have been outside for the last two weekends all day long, planting out. It is not right to come in to work on a Monday more tired than you left on Friday!

    Bookmark     April 12, 2010 at 5:44PM
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cottage_garden(Z10 CA)

Looks like petunias to me - very healthy and happy petunias at that.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 11:57PM
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taz6122(N.W. AR.6b)

Where are they growing? Under lights, in a window, in the dark? More info please!

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 9:53PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

It's still too early to plant tomatoes and especially peppers in your zone anyway so there isn't any rush. You still have a couple of weeks and assuming decent growing conditions they will kick into high gear in plenty of time. Meanwhile make sure you aren't over-watering. That stunts and stalls growth more than anything.

You can't make up for 2 weeks in 2 days. Patience. ;)

Dave

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 10:08PM
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sleepy33(5b KS)

Timers; if timers aren't an option, 24/7 I guess but your waterer will really have to stay on top of it. I wouldn't let zinnias go dark that long. Mine even pouted being in the shade when I hardened them off, so I just kicked em out in the sun. I don't think you need to stake, they'll come toward the light quick enough.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 4:25PM
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taz6122(N.W. AR.6b)

Yes a timer can be bought for less than $10 @ Walmart. They have all kinds from basic mechanical hourly ($6) to more advanced mechanical 15 min ($10) to electronic digital($19)
I would set it from 12-16 hours.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 9:40PM
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susan2010(6 Massachusetts)

Yes, the dome left ajar. BTW, one thing I use with all my seed starts is bird gravel. I cover them with the gravel rather than soil. It seems to help. Also, I start with damp (not sodden) seed starter. I like the one from Gardener's Supply - it seems to work for me and I don't mess with success. But honestly, I don't do anything special with them. I try to resist rewatering the pots unless they really look dry - so maybe that's how I avoid any rotting?

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 4:53PM
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sleepy33(5b KS)

I'll give it a shot! At this point, I'd try dancing backwards around a campfire carrying the seeds if I thought it would help. :) Thanks for the input!

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 5:08PM
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oilpainter(3)

We plant seeds by digging a trench and filling it with water and letting it soak into the ground. Then we fit in a bit and water again a bit just to wet the filled in soil. Then we plant leaving a slight trench. That moisture will be drawn to the surface by the sun and keep your seeds moist. The trench lets you put the water just where you want it after the seeds sprout, on the plants and not the whole garden.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 1:28PM
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nygardener(z6 New York)

Thanks for the good advice! I planted this morning, and we'll see how they do!

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 4:54PM
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tyranodette

I am using SunGro 830 mix and SSE seeds for the first time. I was told to soak the mix in peat pots for a day before planting, which I did. I planted the seeds as per instructions on the packets and placed on hog heating pads set at 93 degrees in a 3 season room in our home. Peat pots are 3" square set in 18 cell seedling trays and placed in 1020 seedling flats with no holes. I then put Propagation Domes on them. Flats are in front of 2 sets of patio doors, so are getting plenty of natural light. Cucumbers are 2" in 3 days and watermelon just poped thru the ground last night.
I think it is the humidity under the dome with the heat, excellent seeds from SSE and a good starting mix, plus good advice from my local greenhouse. I was told not to add anything to the mix, everything was already in it and was good to go until transplanted.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 4:30PM
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sjc48

Hi, I'm from the wintersowing forum; I was reading some of the posts here, because I too, sow seeds indoors on HL/GM. After moaning on the WS forum, that I had absolutely no luck with sowing inside, I did a re-think, and actually I've had some pretty amazing successes from inside sowing. I was keying in on all the failures, and there were many, but just as many sucess stories. And wouldn't you know it, this year, both inside sowing and winter sowing were really successful, and I have LOTS of little seedlings! I think there will always be an equal number of succceses and failures, no matter how many years you've been at it. I hope you stay with it; for me, it's one of the best winter pasttimes!
The 4 foot fluorescent lights are what I use, changed every year, and be careful with the watering. And, this I learned this year, keep the soil warm, and the air temp cool. That's really going to help me, as there are some seeds that can't be WSed.
The Winter sowing forum is really great, as are all the others I've gone to on this site. Very informative, and VERY helpful! Good luck with the seedlings!!

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 4:53PM
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jazzib

We just started ours last night and are also in 5b! (Illinois).
We are a tad late, but I think it's alright.
Hopefully we can plant them the weekend of May 15th.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 3:18PM
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tyranodette

Started mine on Sunday in North Iowa

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 4:11PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

They do on woody stem plants - those whose leaflets sprout directly from the stem itself. Tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, trees, etc.

But they don't from those plants whose leaflets sprout directly from the core, root ball. They don't normally have stems anyway until quite late in life - like lettuce when it bolts - and many flowers normally grown in low clusters.

Cabbage, broccoli (most varieties), and cauliflower are example of plants that fall in the "stemmed but not a woody stem" category. They can be transplanted deeper than lettuces and such but not as deeply as woody stem plants.

Hope this helps.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 14, 2010 at 12:54PM
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chinookgardengirl

Living in an area with such a short season I have no choice but to seed Zinnias inside if I want a decent showing. I have been doing it for years with lots of success.

I use a germination mat (may not be necessary for you) and grow them in lots of light in cooler temperatures (basement) - it prevents them from bolting on me and results in a stockier transplant that is able to handle our chilly Alberta springs.

I don't have too many frost free days, so I start them early and throw them in the greenhouse. In fact, it's been snowing all day...

    Bookmark     April 13, 2010 at 12:23AM
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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

Thanks ya'all!

I just started 3 different kinds yesterday on my heat mat/germination station. They are cutting varieties: white, purple and lime green.

And I have plenty of lights on stand by, ready for their heads to poke through.

I am excited, my cutting garden is 6 times bigger than last year.... all filled with roses, dahlias, zinnias, and a few other misc experiment plants like 'dreadlocks' and some true blue glads.

Shoud be quite a garden!

Keriann~

    Bookmark     April 13, 2010 at 7:10AM
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ali-b

Funny thread. My biggest oops was last year's first time seed starting under lights. Everything was in the basement. I was pretty sure my set-up was good. But, why oh why, were my seedlings not taking off. Well, I finally discovered the outlets (except two) in our basement are all connected to the main light switch. So, when I checked on them, lights on. Back upstairs, lights off. The only thing that saved them was my boys' new xbox game that they kept sneaking downstairs to play!

    Bookmark     April 11, 2010 at 10:51PM
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heirloomjunkie(5a)

Ali, that's hilarious! Frustrating, I'm sure.

    Bookmark     April 12, 2010 at 6:35PM
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vschlaff

Thanks for the help. Im growing a little of everything to start my garden outside in may. I have about 7 trays. And no power outside unles we use a extenion cord. And again using 7 trays i think i would need to plug in would need to plug in 7 cords. Thx

    Bookmark     April 12, 2010 at 2:50PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Then why not just germinate them in the house where you can supply the heat and then move them to the hoop house once they are sprouted? That would be the easiest way to go since they are in trays.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 12, 2010 at 5:26PM
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doninalaska

I would add just one other comment. I have found (and read) that potting mixes with fertilizer in them can sometimes inhibit germination. Just a thought if you used different soil in the greenhouse than in the baggie.

    Bookmark     April 12, 2010 at 2:17AM
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eicher

The seed starting mix that I had doesn't say anything about fertilizer. it just says 100% organic.

And I am still currently waiting on some 4 o'clocks, zinnia, and Dahlia. I have had some zinnia and 4 o'clocks sprout already, but I have yet to see any dahlia seedlings...

    Bookmark     April 12, 2010 at 2:54PM
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cindjo2(6)

try spraying it with peroxide. but it sounds like it is too late already.

    Bookmark     April 11, 2010 at 6:18PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

You can try transplanting it into fresh potting mix and plant it with the affected part of the stem below the soil level in the new mix. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Then reduce the watering. The peroxide spray 1:10 can't hurt, might help.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 11, 2010 at 9:46PM
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horseflysgarden

I think it was the giant teddy bear that was causing them all that stress =)

    Bookmark     April 11, 2010 at 4:55PM
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tobaira(5)

lol! But the broccoli leaf is as big as his head in that picture so he shouldn't be that intimidated! Maybe it was the whole gang of stuffed animals that were putting on the stress!

I'll have to watch the background better next time.

    Bookmark     April 11, 2010 at 5:18PM
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