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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

Without seeing them in person, I would say too much water and they are in need of potassium.

They look really wet from the pictures. You said you used peat in your 'soil', peat retaines a lot of moisture and is slow it drain.

I would repot a few in regular sterile soil and get them dried out and see it if helps.

Keriann~

    Bookmark     March 15, 2010 at 1:25PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Got to agree with the above. That was my first reaction too since it is across the board - it is the classic look of way too much water/too wet soil.

My only other thoughts as "possibles" is halide light burn or wind burn. But if in the greenhouse and unless your fans are set way too high speed ;) I'd doubt wind burn is the problem.

Dave

    Bookmark     March 15, 2010 at 1:46PM
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sarahbarah27(5)

Oh, duh! LOL

    Bookmark     March 9, 2010 at 1:04PM
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flshimmer(5)

I grew hollyhock last year with great success. Be patient, but once they are up, the are easy to grow.

    Bookmark     March 15, 2010 at 10:09AM
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moonwolf_gw

Keriann, thank you!

I did just that after reading your post! I just barely covered it with soil. The tail is downward but not straight down. Should it still be okay?

Brad AKA Moonwolf

    Bookmark     March 14, 2010 at 9:25PM
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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

Good to go, the root will figure it out. As long as it is covered you are in the clear.

Sometimes we all get caught up in a 'perfect' situation. Mother nature has been germinating all of these seeds without our help since the begining of time. Plants are pretty tough, they mostly wither due to our doing or under-doing.

Your guy should do fine.. a bit lanky but it will catch-up once the weather warms and you get get it outside.

If you don't see the seed break surface in 2-3 days, brush the light layer of soil away so it can peak out. It may have to be misted if after a few days of breaking soil it emerges with a 'helmet' head with the bean shell not falling off.. or I always just pick it off VERY carefully as not to damage the stem. You can tell after a few days to a week if the seed leaves are struggling to break the shell off.

Congrats again!

Keriann~

    Bookmark     March 14, 2010 at 9:48PM
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jonhughes(So.Oregon)

Hi Kim,
I like vegetables, but I am more of a carnivore (Rib-Eye) Yummm

I saw a need in our community for Fresh Vegetables all year round for the Homeless or Needy and I have a 1/8 acre and figured I should do what I can to lend a helping hand,so I grow year round as many things as I can, There is nothing like walking into the foodbank (especially when it is barren) and handing over a hundred pounds of fresh vegetables... those are some real servant hearted people there... Anyway...It is a total blessing ...I couldn't be happier to be a part of someone getting food in their stomach ;-)

    Bookmark     March 14, 2010 at 9:08PM
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heirloomjunkie(5a)

Wow! That is so cool!

I often look at my parents' acre or so of flat, boring land and think of what could be. I hope to have some land of my own one day. It's sad how few people realize what a benefit to everyone gardening is...

Kim

    Bookmark     March 14, 2010 at 9:40PM
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sleepy33(5b KS)

I wish I hadn't started so MANY of everything. I feel like it's been non-stop transplanting for weeks now! I guess I should have more faith in my germinating/growing on abilities and not sow all the extras 'just in case'.

    Bookmark     March 14, 2010 at 3:51PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

I wish I had not sown scrophularia nodosa (figwort) indoors. The germination suggestions indicated it could take several weeks at 40F to germinate, or might respond to warm/cold/cool cycles totalling several weeks. I decided to give sown seeds a warm moist period and then place outdoors for some weeks of overnight frost, but they germinated in about 8 days from sowing while still indoors....are now taking up space not designated for them under lights until I can harden them off. Came up like cress, every seed must have germinated.

    Bookmark     March 14, 2010 at 8:06PM
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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

Ah yes Taz...

I forget that I have cooler temps and a fan going. Maybe not the best idea the seedlings are in warm temps to begin with.

Good point

Keriann~

    Bookmark     March 14, 2010 at 9:17AM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

With common shop lights my experience was that I found them best as close as possible without touching.

On some I even devised a pulley hoist to lift the lights when I wanted to work with the pants or when the plants got tall enough to touch the fluorescent tubes.

    Bookmark     March 14, 2010 at 5:41PM
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roger33(7)

I was thinking I might get a broader spectrum of light. The tomato seedlings are getting a little leggy so I was trying to help them out. It's in the low 60's here during the day. I will set them outside. How long can I leave them in the direct sun?

    Bookmark     March 14, 2010 at 1:08PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I will set them outside. How long can I leave them in the direct sun?

Please don't! As sleepy said outdoors is fine but that doesn't mean direct sun. ;)

Direct sun will kill seedlings unless they have been hardened off first and that is a several-days-long process (you'll want to research 'how to harden off plants'). Outside in shade or dappled light for 1-2 hours, gradually increasing the time is fine. Protect them from wind as it too can kill them.

Also keep in mind that leggy plants isn't a spectrum problem - spectrum controls blooming and fruiting, not plant growth/height. It is an insufficient light problem so either more light or closer to the plants.

Dave

    Bookmark     March 14, 2010 at 1:22PM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

Gardenweb has a moderately trafficked Ornamental Grasses forum that gets some regular visits from a few who share some quite good advice.

My experience was that most ornamental grasses require a bit of patience. I've some three year old plants from seed that are just beginning to get interesting.

    Bookmark     March 13, 2010 at 4:18PM
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keriann_lakegeneva(5B WI/IL border)

For all your varities, I would put 6-10 in a 8" pot.

Grasses are tough, you could always divide them before you get them in the ground in Spring if they get fuller by then.

Keriann~

    Bookmark     March 13, 2010 at 4:30PM
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sleepy33(5b KS)

I leave the heat mat on all the time, and run lights for 15 hours a day.

    Bookmark     March 13, 2010 at 11:38AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Heat needs to be constant. Lights are debated. Some use 12 hours, some 16, some argue for 24 hours. Experiment and see which works best for you.

All I can attest to is what I do: stuff in the greenhouse gets Mother Earth's time - approximately 12 on and 12 off when she is in a sunny mood and 16 hours of fluorescent when she isn't. Things in the house get 24 hours on. Works for me.

Dave

    Bookmark     March 13, 2010 at 2:41PM
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tn_veggie_gardner(7)

I bought mine from Baker Creek (like $3 for 25 seeds, I believe) and am about to start them this coming weekend. Hopefully, i'll have at least 50% germination, if not better. I'll let y'all know, on this thread, what my results are though.

    Bookmark     March 10, 2010 at 12:05PM
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iamvillanueva(5 KS)

I just sat down to check out gardenweb before starting some seeds including stevia. This is my first try also. I've read that germination is only 30%, so I'm hopeful I'll get something, but not totally confident. Still excited to try. I bought my seeds from Seed Savers Exchange, $2.50 for 25 seeds.

    Bookmark     March 13, 2010 at 11:13AM
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sleepy33(5b KS)

I agree, my lobelia were much happier when I started keeping them more on the wet side. They were struggling when they were small and really looked terrible after their first transplant, but then I started to really saturate their soil about every other day or so, and they took off.

    Bookmark     March 12, 2010 at 10:24PM
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veryzer

That's what I was beginning to thik. I'm going to run an experiment keeping them consistently moist and see what happens. Thanks.

    Bookmark     March 12, 2010 at 11:29PM
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tn_veggie_gardner(7)

hahaha...love it...good creativity. Doesn't always have to be pretty to work. =)

- Steve

    Bookmark     March 12, 2010 at 2:02PM
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    Bookmark     March 12, 2010 at 6:46PM
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lindakay(zone 5)

I'm not laughing that you started beets, I think it is funny that you ate the extras. :o) The reason there are so many is that beet seeds actually have four seeds kernals in each seed. If you plant two seeds you can get as many as eight plants. Good luck with your plants. It is very satisfying. Linda

    Bookmark     March 12, 2010 at 8:44AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

Beet tops are among my favorite greens. Right up there with mustard greens. Al

    Bookmark     March 12, 2010 at 8:58AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

Germination is easy. Growing them to blooming stage is difficult, has been impossible for me. They are demanding of the climate they will tolerate. Al

    Bookmark     March 12, 2010 at 8:50AM
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chinamon

lol @ sleepy33. i need to join a 12-step program as well.

what originally started as a mini hydroponic project in my basement for four pepper plants has expanded to the backyard this year. i wouldnt be surprised if i started taking over my neighbours backyards as well in a few years. lol

    Bookmark     March 11, 2010 at 2:47PM
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tn_veggie_gardner(7)

My garlic chives! =) Last night after I got home from work & unloaded 500 lb of Pro Mix from my truck, I had a tad bit of energy left. So, I decided to do something with one of my dormant outdoor alliums that I need to do with all 10 or so of my outdoor plants, take all the pine needles off the tops & de-weed them. Well, as I was doing so, I saw a handful of garlic chives starrting to grow their way through the pine needles! Exciting as its the first sign of life from any of my outdoor plants so far this year. =) There are probably 15 or so of them anywhere from 1-4 inches tall.

- Steve

    Bookmark     March 11, 2010 at 7:45PM
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