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Calistoga and Origami Master: Kandesky Cannas online, sells tons of different canna that must be patented, and some they have seed for. That is where I was going to buy seed, thinking, obviously, that would a less expensive way to get a lot of gorgeous plants.
What do you think?

The purchased seed should work fine. Seed is not a problem if the pollination of the plant producing the seed is controlled. The seed produced in your garden is from a plant produced from a cross and can revert to either parent or anything in between. The purchased seed will be an F1 cross where both parents are known and the resulting seed is predictable, though not as predictable as a plant produced from a vegetative part of a plant with no sex involved. Al

They look like they could be slightly light in color but if the berries were starting to shrivel the seeds should be mature. Late summer to early fall is typically when lonicera seeds ripen...
Here is a link that might be useful: Lonicera seed photo

I am sure you will get lots of suggestions, but the one that comes to mind right now would be cosmos. They are an annual, very easy to grow from seed, and bloom all summer long. They also come in many different colors. I don't think they are very fussy as to soil, so a raised bed would be optional for them, but they would appreciate some compost mixed into the top 8 inches of clay.
Lois in PA
Here is a link that might be useful: Here is a link to some examples.

I would love to have it! Although I'm not sure I can bamboozle my husband into it. He already thinks I'm totally out of control =). Would you please email me and let me know what part of the province you are in and if you have an idea of what you would like for the unit. I live in Centre Burlington, a ten minute from Windsor along the north shore.
Many Thanks,
Carrie

Small world Carrie, I live in Windsor, 10 minutes away from you:-)
I guess my father-in-law wants to buy it. I didn't even get a chance to put a price on it after I said I want to get rid of it he spoke right up.
If he changes his mind I will let you know.

Quick update!! Wow, my eBay seeds have germinated! Day 7 and they are JUST starting to show themselves although the seedling leaves are the size of a dot on a piece of paper - but you can see the green!! So I have opened up my baggie for these guys. Wow. Sorry - still *very* new to this stuff! But this is certainly exciting for me! :-)
-tiffany

Clothiers database:
Lilium philippinense , Sow at 64-71ºF for 4 weeks, move to 39ºF for 4 weeks, move to 41-53ºF for germination
So a warm, cold, cool germinator. In this 8b (cooler than your own) I would sow, topping the pot with some grit, do the first month indoors if your Fall temps have dropped out of the 60s. Then use mother nature to provide the cold and cool temps by putting the pot outside.
That moist cool range of 41-53 for germination is difficult for me to provide indoors:)

For a really cheap one, I have had great luck with the small Jiffy greenhouses. =) Really, anything with the clear plasstic lid should have the same results. The key being you just have to know when to move the seedlings back into light & also when to crack the dome slightly or remove it fully for a feew hours.

Have the berries aged long enough (on the plant) that the seeds are mature? Wondering because I checked my neighbors last week and they were not, breaking open the berry showed pale undeveloped seeds, should be yellowish brown when ripe.
Callicarpa- Clean of pulp, surface sow (some light may be beneficial to germination) at 70F for germination in 7-14 days.

It is soil temperature. Your soil will equal your air temperature if given the time. If you keep your house at 68 degrees your soil will be also, at least if kept in the house! Recommended temperatures are usually optimum but you can vary colder or warmer several degrees and still get good germination,it may take a few days longer. Al

since a cold period is not needed to germinate sedum winter sowing would not be recomended. also light is required for germination & the seed could be covered during the winter & delay/prevent germination. Finally germination best if soil temperature during the day is 85F & night time temp 70F can not be achieved outside during the winter.
Have germinated seed from plants that are hybrids & the results have been mixed. some plants were better others worse. only way to tell is grade the plants 1-2 years after germination.

I think if we have a normal winter they should be fine in your unheated greenhouse. They should be hardy to at least Z5 but no, that doesn't necessarily apply to newly germinated seedlings with scanty root systems....but it's an almost balmy 57 here today and I don't see anything frigid in the immediate forecast.
Sometimes seeds surprise us:) I haven't had that happen with eryngium, but I have a pot of newly germinated genista tinctoria I sowed for my neighbor I'll have to hold over winter. The databases suggested very hard seed coat, sulfuric acid or boiling water soak followed by an extended stratification. I did the boiling water soak and had seedlings in three weeks.
Depending on the number of true leaves present, if we were to have something like last Decembers storm forecast, I might be tempted to give them further temporary protection for the duration of the storm...like inside a styrofoam camping cooler.

Thank You Morz8,
Going to do as you suggest. Keep an eye on the weather.
Looks like there are going to be quite a number if they survive. Quite excited. I bought some seeds last year from a supplier (Ms. Whilmot's Ghost and alpinum) only ended up with one of each by the time they where ready to plant out. Put the seed through the scarification requirements, with very poor germination.
I have found with so many of the seeds that I have started that if you can get fresh seed and plant it right away the germination is remarkably better.
The Cyclamen, Erythronium,Helleborus,trillium,dodacatheon,
and many more that I have tried over the years all do better if you have the seed.
Don't mean to ramble, but the trying to start different plants from seed and/or cuttings has always interested me.
I managed to get some Romneya Coulteri started, only a couple from a packet of seeds.
Again, thank you for your info.



Handling seedlings by their leaf is safe as long as the growing mix is loose enough to fall away and release the plant. I have never used peat pots and so do not know how difficult it would be to remove the pot from the soil instead of the soil from the pot. Al