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yiorges-z5il

the division of these plants will be the same as any other plant...... gently seporate the plants .....retaing as much root mass (of each plant) as possible. repot, water well, LIGHTLY fertilize, place in shaded area at first then bring into full light.

    Bookmark     September 9, 2009 at 9:58AM
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fluffybonbon(9)

Thanks for your advise .
Joy

    Bookmark     September 10, 2009 at 1:07AM
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yiorges-z5il

need to first store seed at 70F for 3 months(consider time before & after received seed)then nick seed & sok in water for 24 hours then store at 40F for 3 months
then lightly cover soil temp 65-70F & takes 30-365 days to germinate.......

    Bookmark     September 9, 2009 at 5:37PM
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rain2fall(8/Oregon)

Wow! Those seeds just don't want to break dormancy! Why not get a few bulbs? Mine multiply, and I divide occasionally to get more colchicum. Also be aware that the plant is poisonous.

    Bookmark     September 10, 2009 at 1:00AM
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kayjones(Mo6b)

Here is a link to a review of this company, from the Garden Watch Dog:

http://davesgarden.com/products/gwd/c/3178/

Here is a link that might be useful: Garden Watch Dog

    Bookmark     September 8, 2009 at 7:25AM
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ms_minnamouse(7a)

How many times are you going to ask this?

    Bookmark     September 6, 2009 at 1:29PM
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jimsbiz

Is silver(gray) santolina one of those plants which generally produce viable seeds?

    Bookmark     September 8, 2009 at 1:30AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

I haven't tried that particular eryngium, but according to the Clothiers database they are slow to germinate and not all seedlings will appear at the same time. In my own Z8, putting the pots outdoors from about Nov into early March would make them independent of me having to watch them closely but there is very little chance of any pot drying out here over late Fall and Winter. My winter temps will often be a day/night average of 40F

Clothiers - Eryngium campestre , Sow at Max. 5ºC (41ºF), germination irregular, often several months

    Bookmark     September 1, 2009 at 6:50PM
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gringo(z8 VA)

Hi Savannaht. I haven't tried campestre species in particular.
But with E. alpinum & giganteum cultivars, I have figured out that (unless seeds are not viable to begin with), if they aren't sown almost directly from the the bract, in which case some can germinate within weeks, they can otherwise be rather more difficult/slower, unless the outer seed coat is removed first.

Try using a new damp coffee filter in a plastic baggy, if you aren't already. Carefully use your fingernails to gently remove the outer seed coat & once hulled, quickly place each on the moist filter, as it is important to avoid allowing it to dry out.
The inner seed coat will appear much like a sunflower seed.
Expose these seeds to afternoon or morning light, indoors in a windowsill, but be sure it doesn't make them get too warm.
Then place back in the refrigerator, as the seeds should have started to swell & may turn pale green.
I've noticed they can actually rot more easily, if they aren't cooled down, while in the process of producing a root.
But, since you've pre-stratified them they may just germinate with ease, once the seed coat has been removed without requiring any more cooling & without rotting.
You'll have to keep watch...
If they don't start to germinate &/or rotting starts to occur- Chill again & be patient.
Once the rootlet appears you can pot those up & they should do fine with afternoon shade. After several true leaves have grown, you may carefully plant them out, while trying not to disturb the tap root too much, in the process.
hth

    Bookmark     September 7, 2009 at 10:09PM
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yiorges-z5il

Acold treatment (40F) for 3 weeks helpful.. lightly cover the seed. soil temp 68-75F taking 14-30 days to germinate. flowers 2nd year after cold period.
as to when can start I beleave in your zone can start any time.

    Bookmark     August 31, 2009 at 9:54AM
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petunia_2006

I am in zone 9 coastal also. My colombines self seed. They have set seed already but there are new plants coming up from last season. I have several varieties and they all did well.

    Bookmark     September 5, 2009 at 5:34PM
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yiorges-z5il

You CAN thin out & transplant IF you are gentle & control light/water/temperature. OR YES you CAN delay 2-3 weeks & selective harvest & share

    Bookmark     September 2, 2009 at 7:33PM
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yiorges-z5il

Needs a cold treatment (40F) for 12 weeks.
seedling best used for root stock to graft on a known variety

    Bookmark     September 2, 2009 at 7:29PM
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yiorges-z5il

allow seedhead to mature more..... when spreading in oct. cover seed to protect from birds. mice etc.....

    Bookmark     August 31, 2009 at 10:07AM
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origami_master(5b)

going down
will disappear down if no one else replies

    Bookmark     August 29, 2009 at 11:28PM
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geranium_hybrid(6)

I don't use that. I just buy the Peat moss and perlite, mix then add compost. Nothing else, the seeds love it, I start giving compost tea to them when they get their true leaves, and I use artifical lighting and bottom heating

    Bookmark     August 27, 2009 at 10:20PM
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taz6122(N.W. AR.6b)

I use a 2-1-1 mix of Sphagnum peat moss/perlite/coarse sand. I get the sand from a builders supply. I don't worry about PH either. I used a T8 P&A and a T5 for lights above my gas stove where the pilots kept the trays at 75-80F. I got 90-95% germination on all saved and most bought seeds this year.

    Bookmark     August 29, 2009 at 6:06PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

They are usually more of an orangey tan when ripe, but I understand you can pick the pods and store in a paper bag before they are fully hard and dry...in a paper bag because they pop open and disperse the seed, it doesn't just fall out :)

If light green, I'd give them some more time though, some varieties don't fully ripen until Fall....or if you have several pods, pick and check one for the condition of the seed...dark brown to black and shiny is mature.

Here is a link that might be useful: Ripe dried pod and seed

    Bookmark     August 24, 2009 at 9:08PM
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squirrelspur(6B/7A NC)

Thank you morz8 that really helps a lot!

I may collect a few pods early and store as you suggest in case I miss the ripened pods before they pop open.

squirrelspur

    Bookmark     August 25, 2009 at 1:03PM
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yiorges-z5il

It will be Oct before seedling can be transplanted to pots & then allower to grow on...... so I doubt there will be enough time unless you have a heated greenhouse......
I grow on in a heated greenhouse then give 5 week cold period & get flowers the first year,

    Bookmark     August 25, 2009 at 9:57AM
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ontheteam(5a-6 (S.Eastern, MA))

yeah that's what i am afraid of..I do not have a greenhouse heated or otherwise.
SIGH. Thanks

Any suggestions on what I CAN do?

    Bookmark     August 25, 2009 at 11:09AM
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taz6122(N.W. AR.6b)

I wouldn't plant them now unless you intend on keeping them inside for the winter. They wouldn't overwinter outside in your zone.

    Bookmark     August 11, 2009 at 11:59PM
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chuckstoll(5)

Most canna seeds need to be knicked before planting, I wouldn't hesitate to start them now but plan to plant them in the spring.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2009 at 11:08AM
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yiorges-z5il

If seed pod is brown & starting to dry out then its OK....
I usually put a "baggie" over the stem tip & close with a rubber band. This way I keep the birds away. OR take & cut stem & hang upside down in the garage

    Bookmark     August 25, 2009 at 10:00AM
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