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geoforce(z7a SE PA)

Sheryl

I've grown them many times from seed. And as suggested above they would probably like a fair amount of sun in your area.

My method:
Place in ziplock bag with moist material (sphagnum, pot6ting soil, vermiculite, etc.) and place in butter compartment on door or in crisper of your refrigerator. When at least half of your seeds have grown a root, remove them and plant in pots at room temperature. Plant very shallow at about 1/8" (3 mm) and spread a layer of coarse sand on the surface about 1/4" (6 mm) deep.You can also remove them individually as each forms a good root and plant. Keep moist and warm till they appear and plant out when you want to. Some keep them in pots for 1-3 years but i generally plant in a seedling bed in garden after they get their first true leaf.

George.

    Bookmark     August 3, 2009 at 11:49AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

sheryl, you've sown them in pots already and your plan sounds fine. Just as a space saving step, I'll often put them into a tiny ziplock with about a tsp of moist vermiculite (will easily accomodate 40 or so seeds) and leave that on my desk for approx 2 or more months before sowing, exposing to chill. I normally do the chill outdoors here where my late Fall and Winter temps can often be a day/night average around 40F.

There's no need to cover with landscape fabric any seeds you've sown in the ground. If the plants had been your own and dropped ripe seed, they would have laid on the ground, been watered occasionally until Fall rains began, spent a winter outdoors and most likely have germinated for you in earliest Spring. IF birds or rodents hadn't carried them away :)

Just be sure not to cut your warm/moist or cold/moist periods too short, I try to give seeds at least 10 weeks in the second stage of cold/moist. I don't have a harsh winter like you do, but if you are bringing them in, how warm would your sunny window be? After warm/moist, cold/moist periods, germination begins for me while cool - in the 50 - 55F range.

I top with grit or vermiculite to discourage mosses or algae from forming (with any sown seed that will be with me a few months), the coarse sand mentioned by George would be good too.

    Bookmark     August 3, 2009 at 10:35PM
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old seedI have some lavendar munstead from 2006. Do you think some will still be viable?
Posted by sheryl_ontario(Muncho Lake, BC z2) August 2, 2009
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yiorges-z5il

depends on how stored.... if cool dark, dry then yes... go ahead & try

    Bookmark     August 2, 2009 at 9:44AM
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origami_master(5b)

Most of the cannas in my garden were started from seed. This is the second year I've grown cannas from seed, and have had close to 100% germination. File the seeds (try grabbing the seed with a pair of pliers and rub against a wood file) until you see a white spot. Take a container (I use an old water bottle) put the seeds inside and cover with about an inch of warm to hot water. Leave the container on a heating mat, and rinse the seeds once a day. You'll see a root poke out within five days. Then, transplant the sprouted seed (I do 2 per 3" pot). Seal in a ziplock bag, and put on heat mat. You should seed a sprout poke out within 2 weeks guaranteed. I've tried seeds collected from last year, and have also tried seeds a few years back, and it's worked great.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2009 at 11:43PM
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sheryl_ontario(Muncho Lake, BC z2)

I have also had success growing cannas from seed but the seed is very hard. I finally found a way to put a small hole in the seed, after trying EVERYTHING! I held the seed in one hand with needle nose pliers and pressed it hard against a metal rasp in the drill on high speed. It is the only thing that worked. I could not get anywhere with a file or a sharp knife or scizzors or any of the dozen things I tried. Now I know what works and will use that method for all of them in the future.

After you soak them in warm water, you will know if you have penetrated the seed coat as they will swell and double in size.

I don't seem to have a long enough growing season to get mature seeds before the frost. Would it help if I started them in pots indoors earlier in the spring?

I would love to grow more variety of canna from seed. I grew dwarf white and one that is probably yellow this year. I have red flwrs/green leaves also. I am looking for seeds for the Tropicana variety or any fancy spriped leaves and the red leaves. I bought a Tropicana gold last fall but it didn't survive the winter :-(

    Bookmark     August 2, 2009 at 7:13AM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

Oh. I failed to mention, one of the grasses turned out to be millet and another looked like what old farmers might have called milo maize. Wild birds here liked the mustard, the milo maize and the small sunflowers while still on the plant in the garden patch.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2009 at 11:17AM
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sheryl_ontario(Muncho Lake, BC z2)

I tried to grow seed for my chickens this year. I planted millet, amaranthus, poppies, flax and sunflowers. The only one that came up were the sunflowers. The local groundhog ate them all when they were about 4" tall. I know the poppies need cold to germinate and it was late spring when I planted the others.

Why didn't the millet, amaranthus and flax seeds grow?

    Bookmark     August 2, 2009 at 7:03AM
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yiorges-z5il

"Bitter lettuce" is either Lactuce virosa, L. canadennis, L. serriola its a wild lettuce..... called divlja salata or otrovna locika in Croatan or laktouke e toxike in Greek.

Common garden lettuce is less bitter than wild lettuce

Many of the wild lettuce are used in/as a medicinal herb. that is were I would look for seed

    Bookmark     August 1, 2009 at 8:08PM
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evonnestoryteller(5-6)

I am in CT so my hot weather is a lot different than yours in FL. However, I grow Love Lies Bleeding every year. It never does much here until it gets hot. I also plant them in the ground because they get taller than me.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2009 at 5:33PM
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medontdo(8)

what if you planted a container of clovers nearby them?? the bee's would be attracted to the clovers and then the bee's might go to the castor beans? i have clovers all over in my yard, hubs hates it, but i refuse to get rid of it because i have such great pollination of the plants in my yard!! **big smile** ~Medo

    Bookmark     July 31, 2009 at 12:17AM
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wally_1936(8b)

Clover is wonderful I can't understand why anyone wouldn't enjoy the flowers as well as the smell. We don't have clover, what we have here is something that looks like clover but put on burrs and need to be killed before it gets started or it will spread all over our yards. When I lived in Michigan we use to suck on the blooms for the sweet taste plus try to find those 4-leaf clovers. It is a pretty plant so whats not to like?

    Bookmark     July 31, 2009 at 2:15PM
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yiorges-z5il

store seed at 40f for 4 weeks ...then...DO NOT COVER SEED SOIL TEMP 64-72F TAKING 14-90 DAYS TO GERMINATE.... AFTER GERMINATION COVER SEED. GROWING ON TEMP 58-60F time from germination to setting out green 10-18 weeks.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2009 at 9:19AM
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kiddo_1(NE OH 5)

I WS'd 2 types of lavenders this past winter: True/English and Dwarf Munstead. The English sprouted well and I got over 60 sprouts. They are now sturdy little plants about 6" across. The Munstead didn't sprout as well and were slow to grow (I got only 9 plants out of a whole pack of seeds). But those plants, are now 6-8" tall and blooming. I'm hoping for some blooms on the English lavenders next year. Don't know if this info helps. If you want blooms next year apparently the Munstead (an 14-18" dwarf) blooms the first season, but not the English (2'-4').
Kris

    Bookmark     July 31, 2009 at 9:23AM
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wyndyacre(z6B SW Ont.)

The tall sedum "Brilliant" will grow from seed and selfseeds every year in my garden. It has a more lilac coloured flowerhead than the red one you have which is probably "Autumn Joy". I've never had "A.Joy" self seed and have never tried to grow it from seed because it starts SO easily from cuttings. Just break off a piece, stick it in the ground or a pot and it will grow roots quite quickly.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2006 at 6:40PM
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woody64(5a)

does anyone have any sedum cuttings or seed to sell?

    Bookmark     July 30, 2009 at 8:35PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

If you bought the seed from Home Depot, why are you not asking them for your refund? What do you care where they got the seed if you get your money back? As a retired retailer I was always held responsible for a product I sold and it was up to me to deal with my supplier. Al

    Bookmark     July 29, 2009 at 10:11AM
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avid_gardener

Most national seed companies (like Ferry-Morse) sell under a couple of brand names. My experience is may have to visit the top name website and look around a while to get all the names they sell under.

    Bookmark     July 30, 2009 at 12:55PM
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pink_warm_mama_1(Z4 Maine)

Would you please tell me where you got seeds for purple zinnias? Thank you.

    Bookmark     July 30, 2009 at 11:33AM
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avid_gardener

Burpee packaged seed. Sell it at Lowe's and Home Depot around here. I don't know if they sell it on their website though. They do have Dahlia bloom form listed though, I'll include the link ~ rather expensive. I prefer the single bloom form, seems to work best as a butterfly attractant ~ and way cheaper for the seed.

Here is a link that might be useful: Burpee

    Bookmark     July 30, 2009 at 12:48PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

I have been well satisfied with the seeds and service from Hazzard Wholesale Seeds. Over 7000 varieties stocked and you can buy in resonable quanties. One day order filling in most cases. Al

    Bookmark     July 30, 2009 at 10:10AM
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ms_minnamouse(7a)

But which distributor do you order from, if I may ask?

    Bookmark     July 23, 2009 at 7:53PM
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jpagliai

I bought a couple at Lowes

    Bookmark     July 29, 2009 at 10:41PM
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wally_1936(8b)

It is my understanding that they may each have their own set of roots as they may have more than one embryo per seed and with care you may be able to separate them and re-pot all of them. I finally got one to sprout but so far I have found only one sprout. Good luck

    Bookmark     July 13, 2009 at 4:49PM
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geoforce(z7a SE PA)

This is a common thing in citrus seeds also. Most of the citrus embryos are parthenocarpic and not from pollination so they are identical to the mother plant genetically. I would suspect that only one of your seedlings is a true pollinated enbryo as well and maybe none. The parthenocarpic ones should give a better chance at good fruit as they are genetically like the seed parent.

In citrus each has separate roots so separate as soon as they have enough roots to survive without the food from the seen endosperm.

George

    Bookmark     July 27, 2009 at 9:30PM
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