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shebear(z8 NCentralTex)

Can't help you with the seeds but get some Actinovate and start drenching your soil. It made a big difference on a couple of areas that had wilt issues. It's not a cure but it seems to slow it down to a crawl and give the plant chance it needs.

You'll probably have to order it but maybe a local nursery might have it. It runs about $20.00 for a small package but you only use a teaspoon a gallon. It's used on lawns for mildew and lawn diseases so it's becoming more available down here in the south.

I figure anything that might give the soil a chance to re-balance itself is worth a try.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2009 at 9:42AM
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noonshyne

Thanks shebear, I'll check it out.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2009 at 12:07PM
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seamommy(7bTX)

Hi, welcome to gardening! You can save all three sprouts in each pellet, but they may crowd each other out. If you plan to plant the chamomile in the ground be sure to tear off the net cover on each pellet as some plants roots have trouble grwoing through it. Once the seeds have sprouted they don't require heat and you need to not let them dry out. Those peat pellets are very bad about soaking up water again once they have dried out. Try to keep the pellets moist while keeping the little seedlings dry. If the pellets are too wet, your seedlings will have a problem called damping off. It's a fungus that will kill them.

You don't say what kind of container you have them in, but the seedlings now need light and water. If your container is clear, they may get enough of both if you set it outside, but protect it from overheating and cooking the little plants. They are very tender and vulnerable right now.

If you lose some of them, or even if you lose all of them, try again. I've been gardening for over 50 years and I'm still learning new things all the time. One thing I learned this year was that soilless sterile seed starting mix is much better than peat pellets for starting seeds. the pellets are handy and convenient, but plants outgrow them very quickly. Cheryl

    Bookmark     May 12, 2009 at 12:38PM
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jerem(5b)

Thanks for the reply!

Here is my frugal setup:

http://img27.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=p1010017qdi.jpg

The container im using is actually i think some kind of tinfoil roasting pan with a plastic lid on top of a heating pad and inside is a thermometer which is surprisingly staying at 80F. I had all of these laying around and its amazingly working well so far. The second picture is my of my Chamomile seedlings that i planted 2 days ago. So you think i should take anything that has sprouted out of the container? Where should i put them? How can i keep the pellets from drying up?

Thanks!!

    Bookmark     May 12, 2009 at 11:14PM
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zahzeen(5)

Just as an FYI, I almost placed an order with Park Seed Company (also known as "Park's Garden"). The prices were so right and the shipping reasonable. Luckily, I googled "park seeds ratings" and on Dave's Garden website, the Company received 86 negative and 10 neutral ratings and only 20 positive ratings (ratio of about 5 to 1 negative/neutral). I didn't place the order based on what I read in the reviews.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2009 at 7:05PM
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Laura Grossmann

I wish I'd done the same...I still didn't receive my seeds...apparently, they are still in shipping and will be shipped out within "a couple of business days."

    Bookmark     May 12, 2009 at 8:33PM
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tn_veggie_gardner(7)

Those are general averages and nowhere close to exact. The time will always vary. For your best estimate (via my previous experiences with Ferry Morse seeds), plant the seed. Once it germinates, you will have your first bud (maybe even flower) by the time the days to harvest arrives.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2009 at 10:37PM
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craziekaren(4)

I've been thinking about using an old electric blanket from a thrift store, set on low it should be good also?

Karen

    Bookmark     May 11, 2009 at 5:45AM
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aaaaaaaa(6)

I used rope lights. Coiled in an aluminum disposable tray Âkind of tray we use for parties etc. Over this I placed another tray with plastic cover and inside started the seeds. I know this is crude, but did work extremely well for me!!
Because of aluminum the entire setting will be warm enough for seed germination.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2009 at 6:48PM
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Karen Pease

Anyway, I think this is going to be my technique for killing weeds and weed seeds/seedlings in the spring.

Just so you know... clear construction plastic like you might get in bulk at your local big box store is *not* rated for outdoor use. It's non-UV-treated polyethylene. It'll last for about 200-300 days exposed to the elements before it becomes brittle and starts cracking when flexed.

If you want something that'll last, order plastic from a greenhouse supply store. Get at least treated polyethylene. Treated PVC or fluorinated polymers are even better. Bubble wrap is two-layered PVC, so you may get a bit more insulation that way. Also excellent are solar pool covers.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2009 at 1:10PM
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flowerfavorite

Thanks for the posts on the plastic - so much to learn yet! At least while I'm waiting around to plant, I still have time to do something useful! BTW...my extra tomato plants made great mother's day gifts, too! Less to bring in at night, and both my mom and mother-in-law are happy!

    Bookmark     May 11, 2009 at 2:33PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

As you have already potted them up to a larger size pot is sounds like they are recovering from the transplanting. As soon as possible, you don't mention your zone, take them outside into a brighter light for a hour or two a day. Al

    Bookmark     May 11, 2009 at 9:51AM
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bitterwort

Swiss chard and its relative the beet have multiple seeds joined in a fruit, which is actually what you'll find in the seed pack. Each one you plant will typically grow into multiple plans, as you've found. I usually start chard in pots as you do and then transplant them to plugs or 4-packs to grow before planting out. I wait until they grow large enough to handle and then I separate them while transplanting them. Rather than pulling them out, I'd suggest carefully pushing the soil with plants out of the pot and then carefully teasing the soil and little plants apart. I usually let the seed mix get a bit dry before attempting this because it's easier to separate the soil then. Good luck!

    Bookmark     May 2, 2009 at 11:36PM
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susanne_in_nl(z6-7 Netherlands)

Thanks Bitterwort. I did find some info explaining about the seed "clusters" after a few different searches online. Yesterday I went ahead and teased apart the 1-2 inch tall seedlings as you suggested and potted them in bigger pots. They all seem to be doing OK. Some will stay in the pots and a few I may try in the ground as edible ornamental plants. I just hope I can keep the snails and slugs from feasting on them before we can!

Thanks again,

Susanne

    Bookmark     May 10, 2009 at 3:43PM
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hortus_custodis(7)

When the soil gets dry about 1/2 inch deep it is time to water. Be careful not to over water though!
Better to go a little too dry than to over water.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2009 at 2:05PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Half inch could certainly be young slugs, and here in the slug capitol of the world they come in several colors...

Do you think they are slugs (easy to identify) or do you suspect something else? If slugs, you'd better get some bait out (many choices of environmentally friendly or otherwise at any garden center) or you won't have your seedlings for long. Another way to deal with them is to go out after dark with a flashlight, armed with a spray bottle of approx 1 part household ammonia to 4 parts water - spritz on the slug and it's dead in a heartbeat, ammonia/water won't harm your seedlings....just don't spray on plants in the heat of the mid day sun and that isn't when you would be finding slugs anyway.

Here is a link that might be useful: Young slug

    Bookmark     May 9, 2009 at 9:42PM
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quilt_mommy(5/6 Northeast Ohio)

Thank you morz8 - so do you think I might have flowers in June? (Can you tell I am anxiously anticipating my sweet pea flowers!! Lol*)

    Bookmark     May 9, 2009 at 9:00AM
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llhowland44

My records show that my first sweet pea bloomed last year on July 1. I am borderline 5/6 too

    Bookmark     May 9, 2009 at 2:43PM
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blindingbrown(6b)

Ok, a majority of our seeds are up now. Just a few pesky hold outs. So, it must have been the hot spell/cold spell that got them off to a slow start. Now that the weather is seasonal, (most) all the seeds seem happy.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2009 at 9:38AM
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quilt_mommy(5/6 Northeast Ohio)

I don't know about the peat moss and all that, but I can tell you in my experience, I don't till the soil either. Sometimes I remove sod altogether to make a bed, sometimes I just turn it deeply. Either way there are always at least a few weeds to pull, but seeds seem to germinate just fine. There are probably things I could do to get a higher germination rate, but really, as long as you follow the packet instructions most seeds aren't too fussy.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2009 at 10:58AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

They do look happy to have received some water. If you do have seeds sprouting from direct sowing and are concerned about temps overnight in the 40's, you can always place an upside down pot or bucket over them in the evening - will give you a few degrees protection.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2009 at 8:02PM
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v1rt

Awesome! I never thought about that! ;)

I've sowed the seeds in the ground. Do I water them everyday?

Thanks again! :D

    Bookmark     May 8, 2009 at 8:54PM
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rokal(LongIsland/z6b)

Yes you can. In fact, most of what you listed can be winter-sown.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2009 at 9:03AM
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v1rt

Thanks! :)

    Bookmark     May 8, 2009 at 10:29AM
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mayberrygardener(z5a, Broomfield, CO)

Regarding seed movement: there are a number of folks that will "rag-sow" seeds--as in, put them in a moist paper towel (nside an open-ended baggie) and place them in a warm spot until the seed has germinated, then the seed will be planted in medium. Based on this information, I would hypothesize that seed movement, as long as it's not too out of control, shouldn't cause germination problems. I have been completely hit or miss with my seeds this year. It may be that your seeds had started to germinate and then got too dry and died before they were able to take off--my tomatoes always sprout long before peppers.

For the record, if you have ever grown tomatillos before, you may have heard that it's best to plant them in pairs; some won't set fruit if there is only one plant. Doesn't make sense to me, but I've always planted them in pairs, and never any regrets for having done so.

Don't give up on your babies; if it's nice outside, just put them outside in a greenhouse-style protection--just put those peat pots (watered from the BOTTOM to avoid more trouble) into a cleaned out milk jug. Go check out the winter-sowing forum and FAQ's(no, it's not too late to wintersow if you're still starting indoors from seed) and let mother nature do the hard part--just be sure your medium stays moistened--tomatoes are very unforgiving when it comes to moisture.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2009 at 11:22PM
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