6,340 Garden Web Discussions | Growing from Seed

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Karen Pease

Yes, leggy plants, given adequate light, will generally recover. You won't lose that initial long, leggy stem, but they'll curve upwards and start putting on leaves. Assuming they're not too far gone.

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 2:07PM
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amna(6 (MA))

I had this problem with my cosmos last year - my first time growing from seed. What helped a lot was to move the seedlings into a different container and gently, very gently, curling most of the leggy stem downwards near the roots and burying the whole thing in soil so that only the topmost 1-2 inches of the plant are bove the soil level. Just have to be super careful to not snap the stem in the process. Of course provide extra light from this point on to prevent reoccurence of legginess. When I went to plant these seedlings out, the stems buried under the soil had actually grown nice big roots and the cosmos went on to grow to their 4-5 foot height on strong stems and bloomed profusely

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 11:32AM
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ohsillyme

Well Hello retiredprof!! I too am a WS'er - *I know about you!* ;) I'm a WS lurker - I dont post too often, but it is my home away from home. Nice to finally meet your acquaintance! LOL!

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 11:11AM
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retiredprof(7)

Silly: No more lurking! You better high-tail it over to the WS Forum and get posting! ;-)

Oh, and BTW, happy to meet you, too!

Prof

PS: I'm afraid to ask what you know about me...

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 11:12AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

The temperature listed is for optimum germination time. If you see seed germination versus seed temperature charted, as you move away from optimum you lose very little for most seeds with a ten degree variation either way. Al

    Bookmark     March 28, 2009 at 9:10AM
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ms_minnamouse(7a)

That seems a little too warm. They say about 76 usually. 90 is quite a bit hotter than that.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 10:10AM
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ms_minnamouse(7a)

I use food containers or pots in freezer bags usually, but anything clear that will hold in humidity will work.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2009 at 10:08AM
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zubababy(6b Utah)

Maybe here?
Stuewe and Sons

    Bookmark     March 28, 2009 at 9:53PM
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Loretta NJ Z6

Really. $10 should buy you at least 2 flowering plants.

    Bookmark     January 20, 2006 at 4:43PM
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dcrane_hal-pc_org

Much less expensive Gerbera seeds at sunrise seeds

Here is a link that might be useful: Gerberas at Sunrise seeds

    Bookmark     March 28, 2009 at 8:21PM
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yiorges-z5il

1) How much lioght is the plant getting. 2) day temp 60-65F night temp 45-50F, 3) water 4) fertilization 5) soil pH 5.5-7.0
Consider each factor & adjust conditions.

    Bookmark     March 28, 2009 at 6:55PM
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yiorges-z5il

remove kernel & soak in dilute bleach for 30 min. then use moist wood shavings in a plastic bag at 35F (DARK!) germination in 21 days.... plant is partially parasitic

    Bookmark     March 28, 2009 at 9:05AM
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Karen Pease

Lift the dome and get them light. Any light. But the bluer the light and the more efficient it is, the better.

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 7:52PM
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tn_veggie_gardner(7)

Yep...what they said...preferable sunlight (inside in a windowsil if it's too clod out).

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 9:10PM
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dirtbert(z4)

I would agree with the others on most accounts. Keep in mind some seeds actually prefer to not have bottom heat. I believe cool season crops like broccoli can actually be hindered by it. That said, bottom heat does speed germination for a lot of seeds ;)
Also make sure to get the lights on right away after germination to prevent the seedlings from getting "leggy" (or stretching to find light).

    Bookmark     March 20, 2008 at 11:29PM
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newbie_in_nj(6b E/Central NJ)

This is my first year using heat mat and lights. Sowed in 72 pack cell tray. Separated cells into 9 cell packs so I could move off heat when different varieties germinated.

The Salvia coccinea 'Lady in Red' and 'Coral Nymph' germinated in TWO DAYS!

About 60% 'Lady in Red' are showing full tiny cotyledons at soil level and 30-40% 'Coral Nymph are just breaking surface with tiny green things.

Best to move them off heat mat and under very close lights (no dome anymore) IMMEDIATELY or wait til morning so they're good and clear of soil?

Not going to move to larger container for a while since they're so tiny.

I had light on over domed cell pack even though not needed for germination. Chalk it up to newbie nerves.

Didn't think I'd have to make this move so soon since germination instructions said they take 4 weeks or longer @68F and if no germination try 4 weeks @39F.

Thanks for help is anyone sees this tonight!

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 8:01PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

The spent flower needs to stay on the plant until a seed pod forms and ripens in order for you to have mature seeds to harvest.

Photo of seed pod and seeds here -

Here is a link that might be useful: Pod and seeds

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 1:31PM
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hamey(Z9 FLA Pasco County)

Thanks Morz8.. that website has great information.. 'Preciate It, Karen

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 3:07PM
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hamey(Z9 FLA Pasco County)

Best way to really know is pull the dirt from the cup and see.. the best time to do that is when the medium is kinda dry. Karen

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 1:22PM
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Karen Pease

Yeah, the roots are just heading toward the water. There's nothing wrong with that; just let them be.

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 2:06PM
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trillium15(z5a Ontario)

no. Not dahlias. But thank you.

I believe the word star is in their name. Pink Star or something. I thought it was something like, Clarkia, Lewisia, Nemesia...something in an ia ending, but it's none of those.

And Unwins claims they dont' know of such a seed. Strange how I have their seed pkg.

    Bookmark     March 25, 2009 at 8:18AM
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luvtogrow

cosmos?

    Bookmark     March 27, 2009 at 6:36AM
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pondmaster101

That's what I did. For most seeds I buy cheap, but for parsley its worth it for quality

    Bookmark     March 18, 2009 at 9:21PM
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mocha466(3)

I haven't tried starting my parsley seeds yet; for the past few years I throw 'em in the garden when it warms up (both Italian & curly). They have overwintered temps down to -35C and about 4 feet of snow and come back up the next year just fine. This year, I ordered some seeds from Franchi Sementi - it looks like it's called Gigante - a flat-leaf Italian variety. Here's what it says on the back of the seed package:
..."75-80 days from direct seed. Prefers full sun and a loose fertile soil. Beging sowing in early spring, if direct seeding, 4-5 seeds every 12". Either thin or gro in a clump. Slow to germinate (up to 2-3 weeks), so keep moist and be patient. If using transplants, start 6 weeks before set out date, 5-6 seeds per 4" pot covered with 1/4" soil mix. Try starting second crop in late July."...
By the way, here's what I love about these Franchi seeds - a package was only $2.95, and it contains 4500 seeds per PACKET!!! That's right, 4500 seeds!! San Marzano roma tomatoes? Same packet price, and there's a minimum of 350 seeds per packet - yikes again! Tremendous bargain as far as I'm concerned...anyways, good luck with the parsley! Patty

    Bookmark     March 26, 2009 at 6:03PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Sure, folks do it all the time. :) Great way to save $$.

Sometimes I have found that the germination rate isn't quite as good - depends on the bean - so I just plant them more thickly and then thin as needed.

Dave

    Bookmark     March 20, 2009 at 11:40PM
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mocha466(3)

That's great news! I've got black turtle beans (brought home from a vacation in Cancun last year), gigantic Lima beans (from a Caribbean food store), canneloni beans (Safeway), etc., that I am now going to try growing. This question had occurred to me yesterday as I was soaking some of these Lima beans for bean dip. Great way to save on buying these kinds of seeds!

    Bookmark     March 26, 2009 at 5:48PM
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