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rachel_z6(7)

I think my first couple years, in order to maximize heat and light, I secured cardboard to the wire-mesh shelves I was using. I covered the pre-cut cardboard on one side with aluminum foil, made holes at the top, and twist tied them onto the shelves. When I needed to get to the flats I lifted up the cardboard like a flap. This also effectively served to keep the cats out. In fact, spare lengths of cardboard seem to have been used on many occasions to keep cats out of whatever it is they would have made a mess of. :)

    Bookmark     March 6, 2009 at 2:22AM
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mindiloohoo

I have found that my cats made the connection between the spray bottle and the plants. A few squirts at the cats have been helpful. I also leave the spray bottle "guarding" the plants, and the cats dont' go near. :-) I still keep the door closed most of the time anyway, just to be safe.

    Bookmark     March 6, 2009 at 9:43PM
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started_with_bean(Zone 5--MA)

So glad you enjoyed my picture! I too get inspired when I see other people's seedling pics.
I read that impatiens like it cool at night. It was most likely the heat from the lamps and not the light that's been helping with the germination. Gotta keep them just moist! I went away and my husband almost killed them as he was just watering them every 2 days! BTW, it took a while to get buds though, but the plants really took off once I put them into window boxes.

    Bookmark     March 6, 2009 at 4:39PM
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ashley_minnig

started with bean,
I am so happy they germinated, I bet your right about the heat from the lights!
The seed coating is still on the tops of the leaves. So how often do you water?
I also am curious now that I got them growing, what now? I am clueless! ha ha! Well I still am trying to decide if it is to early to take off the dome? Do you fertilize yours and if so with what? And when? Questions, questions!
Again thanks so much for sharing your picture! It is worth a thousand words!
Do you keep yours pretty cool?

    Bookmark     March 6, 2009 at 9:32PM
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stephaniesgarden(8)

I started some a few weeks ago, no plastic, no heat mats...nothing. I did cover them with soil because I wasn't aware until after the fact, that they say aren't supposed to. They did fine.

I have also used gallon bags as a dome...this may sound crazy but this year I started about 16 different kinds of seeds and couldn't afford the seed trays with Domes at $7 a piece. I went to the dollar tree, got the little 8x8 alluminum baking trays that were 4 for a Dollar. they are very thin but I'm not cooking with them so it didn't matter.

I filled them with soil, watered, sowed my seeds and slid the hole thing into a gallon bag, filled with air....and ta-dah....had a small greenhouse. It worked GREAT for ALL of my seedlings.

    Bookmark     March 4, 2009 at 2:23PM
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RG100

Thank you all for taking time to respond and provide me with this information. I sowed them about 5 days ago - so I guess I have a long while to wait.
I also just put them out in trays ( recycled from plants purchased last year) in front of the patio door. No heating mat and no lights. Usually my plants do quite well with that.
Happy Gardening - summer is coming close!!

    Bookmark     March 6, 2009 at 3:17PM
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bunnygurl(Z3)

I have them fairly close under artifical lighting. The color is virbrant and the leaves seem healthy, so you'd think that both of those would suffer if light wasn't sufficient right?
So should I just stake them with a toothpick like you did and hope they toughen up? I think I'll do that anyways just in case.
Thanks!

    Bookmark     March 4, 2009 at 10:22PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

With low light seedlings grow larger leaves to get more photosynthesis and also elongate the stems. There is NO substitute for adequate light. Al

    Bookmark     March 6, 2009 at 9:58AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

You are keeping your plants too wet and the resulting moss will kill the seedlings if not remedied. Your seedlings have roots and the soil surface does not need to be kept WET. Al

    Bookmark     March 6, 2009 at 9:44AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

The "moss" is actually mold and is a common thing when the potting mix is kept too wet and it often comes up for discussion here. It can kill the seedling so yes, it needs to be stopped. It leads to the disease called "damp-off" (lots of info here on it) and rots the stem at the soil line. Gently scrape off the surface what you can.

Most new to seed starting overwater and young seedlings need air in the soil as much as they need water. Water drives that air out of the soil mix. So, as already mentioned, you need to cut back on the watering so that the surface soil dries a bit and improve the sir circulation and then the mold will die. Part of the problem is using the egg cartons.

Very young seedlings can easily be transplanted to larger containers and root damage is actually much less at this stage than it will be later. It is called "pricking" seedlings. It takes a light hand but it is best to get them out of the egg carton ASAP and transplanted.

Dave

    Bookmark     March 6, 2009 at 9:45AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

Be sure they are getting lots of light and DO NOT give them too much water. Hide the spray bottle to prevent over use. Al

    Bookmark     March 6, 2009 at 9:23AM
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franked1

Kiddo:As Dave said-some seed have a short life-Onions,parsnips etc.Fresh seed each year is best but i would not throw year old seed out unless your long on money & short on time.Sometimes a little extra bottom heat helps.This year i had luck starting 4 varieties onions[old seed].I did seed heavier-25-50%.I got 50-88% germination.So during this cool[damn cold]winter it's fun to seed/grow under lights.Just my opinion--fez920 Wi Z5

    Bookmark     March 5, 2009 at 5:22PM
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tomakers(SE MA Zone 5/6 or ?)

I have had onion seeds up to 2 years old germinate at about 50%, but I know onion seed is notoriously short-lived. The seed companies do nothing to prevent germination.
JMO,
Tom

    Bookmark     March 6, 2009 at 4:33AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

They need to be planted almost immediately, within 24 hours, or bacterial contamination sets in. You can extend it to 48 if you rinse and drain them at least a couple of times a day. And yes, seeds sprouted at the same time will mature at the same time if planted. Just sprout some more later.

Dave

    Bookmark     March 5, 2009 at 4:54PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Here are a couple of previous discussions on your questions with lots of tips on how you can do it.

Shelves, lights, some plastic or reflective material to enclose the shelves, and a small fan is all you need.

Hope it helps.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: starting seeds in unheated garage discussions

    Bookmark     March 5, 2009 at 4:50PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Please post this on the Aquatic Plant Exchange forum.

Thanks.

Here is a link that might be useful: Aquatic Plant Exchange

    Bookmark     March 4, 2009 at 10:12PM
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gettingreenthumb

My experience is to thin them sooner rather than later, I've had good luck for a few years doing it. All my Kale that has been transplanted and survived but lost a few due to overseeding, it happens. I use a spoon and slide it an inch away parallel to the tap root and dig 2" past the length of the plant itself, it should lift out with a little help of your finger, have the hole in the new pot ready thats deeper than the lenght of the root. Then just place the seedling in its hole and slide the spoon out. Trial and error will teach a lot but a hint cant hurt. I would do this when the plant is like 3-4" tall, or when it has set its true leaves. The roots will bind quickly so its better sooner than later, I separated mine when they were just sprouting, about 2"-3" tall, I'd say its safe then for the broccoli.

    Bookmark     March 4, 2009 at 6:13PM
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naturenut_ohio(z6Ohio)

Thanks for the advice greenthumb..I think I will try a couple tomorrow and see how it goes..

    Bookmark     March 4, 2009 at 8:50PM
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sunnygirl70(5 IN)

I have snow on the mountain. It is a great ground cover that looks like hosta but smaller form and is a hardy perrenial. It grows in the sunny spots where hosta WONT.
Try Park Seeds co. www.parkseed.com their product is great and have had awesome outcome. Good Luck!!

    Bookmark     March 4, 2009 at 8:01PM
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polarized(6)

Petzold6596 & Dave-

Thank you very much. I don't have a particular seed in mind.

I started to catalog my seeds this year and just wanted to be sure. As to not save seed of an undesirable offspring.....:)

Also, Thanks for the info on the corn Dave. I did not know that all corn are hybrid.

Have a great night all and thanks again for the help.

    Bookmark     March 3, 2009 at 6:32PM
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gettingreenthumb

Yea, corn cross pollinates easily due to large fields.

    Bookmark     March 4, 2009 at 6:19PM
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kayjones(Mo6b)

Mine are ripening now, after a cold period. They self-sow readily - I have a number of seedlings below the mother plant. I harvest mine when they are brown and ready to fall from the bush.

    Bookmark     March 4, 2009 at 4:42PM
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leroifl

They work great. I have used them for awhile. I am on my 3rd planting this year. 1 more to go.

    Bookmark     March 4, 2009 at 3:08PM
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