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nckvilledudes(7a NC)

I have never had any issues with those companies or individuals that send seeds via the USPS. I wish more companies would use them so that their shipping rates wouldn't be so outrageous. Maybe people would be more willing to order items if the shipping was cheaper which would benefit both the consumer and the companies trying to sell their wares.

    Bookmark     February 27, 2009 at 3:24PM
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wildlifeman(5b)

homemommy,

i logged in just to back u up. there is far more expense to maintain a retail outlet than a mailorder warehouse. high shipping prices are just another way to boost income.

whens the last time u saw a mailorder house in a shopping mall,strip mall, downtown etc.

all of what u said is so true.

i bet dollars to donuts it's cheaper to ship products than maintain a retail outlet. actual shipping rates should be all that is charged.

wildlifeman

    Bookmark     March 3, 2009 at 4:48AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Here is a discussion about them from last week that should help. (linked below)

And Here is a list of previous discussions on them.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Soil Block makers

    Bookmark     March 2, 2009 at 10:16PM
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RG100

Hi - I am in Ontario too and just curious to know which varieties you are growing. If you have seedlings in February - that is very interesting. Ususally I grow zinnia, petunias, basil, marigold etc but I dont start till mid -march.

Do your plants get leggy or do they just do find till it is planting time which I believe is May for us.

    Bookmark     March 2, 2009 at 11:51AM
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homemommy

Yes, may is planting time ;-)

What do I have growing...hmmm...

I started at the very end of Jan or 1st of Feb some geraniums and crazy daisys, ornamental peppers, dalhias and zinnias. I should not have started the zinnias or dalhias, just got too excited! But, the other three are all very very slow growing! They need to be started around then. I put them under shop lights, so they are all doing ok, surprisingly even the zinnias and dalhias. Out of three full seed trays (72 plants each) I have only lost 5 plants.

I have since then, about a week ago started a flat of various types of rudbekia. One is Prarie Sun, beautiful yellow flower with a green centre. Another is a type of double, and I also planted a type that has these beautiful oversized flowers and rusty centres. Two of the three varieties are short lived perennials.

This last weekend, I have started marigolds and coleus. I also planted a really neat type of coneflower. it has petals on top of the centre cone. I put those in the fridge though and they will stay there for four weeks to stratify, so they won`t come out until April.

I am hoping that by April, I can move them out to a cold frame.

Now I have learned about it, I am planning on winter sowing a whole bunch of other seeds. I just got a stand off freecycle. I am thinking of trying some extra coneflower and crazy daisy and rudbekia seeds. (I just can`t get enough of those plants, although many likely won`t flower until next year. I have some purple basil, and forget me nots, and a burgandy blanket flower that I am also thinking about winter sowing, or starting in the cold frame.

I also have some green envy Zinnias that will be directly sown in the spring.

I have probably spent over a $100.00 so far on seed. I am not sure if I spent it wisely, but I have a lot of varieties that are not the common ones, and cost a little bit more. I figure though, I will get about 500 plants out of it by the end, so, by the time you add up the cost of the other supplies to grow them, perhaps it will work out to 75 cents a plant. Even if some don`t bloom until next year, that is still a pretty good value considering they can cost $7-14 at a nursery!

I am really interested in seeing how the winter sowing thing goes. It will open up the door wide on what I can start next year. There is only so much you can grow in the house!

So, what are you planning on growing...

    Bookmark     March 2, 2009 at 8:48PM
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lynsay144

I also a newbie gardener, so this site help me a lot

Here is a link that might be useful: Gardening Seeds

    Bookmark     March 2, 2009 at 4:15PM
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retiredprof(7)

memphistigerlily: Go to the Wintersowing Forum--quick! Almost everything you have listed can be WS'd now except the MG's and Moonflower (not sure about the Hummer vine). You will love the forum and the whole process makes it so much easier for newbies to gardening.

Prof

    Bookmark     March 2, 2009 at 5:58PM
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rj_hythloday(8A VA)

Just making it clickable

Here is a link that might be useful: clickable link

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 9:57PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Untied, while cross posting is usually discouraged, I hope you place this in Growing Under Lights and in Hydroponics too. I'm thinking you would find only a few here who grow from seed to maturity indoors.

    Bookmark     March 2, 2009 at 10:57AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Weeper, neither Druse nor Clothiers databases (both reliable) indicate these must be surface sown or mention needing light to germinate at any stage of seed freshness - The Thompson/Morgan database suggests sowing 1/16 deep.

(FYI - When in doubt unless sowing dustlike tiny seed, it's usually safe to lightly cover, or sow on the surface of sowing medium and cover with grit. The grit will help to keep contact against the moist medium while still letting in some degree of light.)

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 6:31PM
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homemommy

I would suggest taking the seed, press it into the soil, then just very carefully, with sort of a finger sweeping or pinching motion just barely cover the seed.

    Bookmark     March 2, 2009 at 9:19AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

Dave makes the point that most seeds do not benefit from the light until after germination. All seedings need as much light as they can get. Before germination only consider the temperature, after germination a cooler temperature is good but more light is a must. Al

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 8:25AM
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sheltieche

Winter sowing forum- read FAQ- very useful for those of us who has seed addiction.
Otherwise do you plants in shifts- couple days one set of trays under lights, then next...hubby just complained that we have our seed trays on the dinner table...LOL

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 3:34PM
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shebear(z8 NCentralTex)

Or maybe capillary mats.

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 8:55AM
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chilipete(7)

Thanks for the replies.

I may give capillary mats a try. Is there a source to buy them from without buying a whole greenhouse kit?

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 1:24PM
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yiorges-z5il

The coating was put on the seed so you could put 1-2 seed per pot easly. & do not cover the seed....
by the way the seed does need a pretreatment of 12 week cold period at 40F

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 10:20AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

If your cold frame stays above freezing and gets full daylight it should be fine. Al

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 8:29AM
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bcskye

Good idea. I have hundreds of jars I've acquired over the years so I'm okay there, but I buy lids any time I see them at a very good price. I still have some Pomona's Pectin left over, but this coming week I'm going to the only store that I know that carries it (about 35 miles away) and buy up a good supply that will take me through the rest of this year. My husband says I'm a hoarder, but I'm just someone who does think ahead.

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 12:16AM
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kandm(8b coastal alabama)

Where do you buy jars? I've looked at Walmart and haven't found them. I picked up a few Ball jars at the Good Will making sure to check the rims for chips and flaws.

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 7:54AM
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homemommy

I am not sure about the difference between annual and perennial poppies and winter sowing... but I know that no matter what kind of poppies I have, I have had the best like spreading them over the snow, like was suggested to you, in the areas where you would like them to appear. I missed the snow one year, and made ice cubes with the seeds in them and it worked fine too.

The one thing I really recommend though, is don't be afraid of weeds. One thing that is very commmon for people that are new to sowing plants, particularly ones that the yare not sure exactly "where" they are going to come up (because the seed was scattered) is they pluck out the seedlings thinking they are weeds! lol. Well, really not funny!

What I do is if I am not sure that a plant is a weed, I let it grow a little. Once you get a pair of true leaves, you may be able to tell if it is a weed, or your plant (poppy in this case). If you are thinking "gee, I have never seen that type of weed before" then I suggest letting it grow a little more until you are more sure, or someone can help you identify it.

You don't want weeds to get really established, but letting a suspected weed grow on for a few weeks is not usually a huge problem, afterall, you should have many more opportunities to pull it later!

    Bookmark     February 28, 2009 at 2:13PM
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sakura2006

My message to express appreciation to Homemommy, Sewobsessed, and Mor28 is not visible.
I just want to make sure this time my message is going show up.
Thank you HOmemommy, Sewobssessed, and Mor28 for taking your time to reply.
Each of you gave me good suggestions!

    Bookmark     March 1, 2009 at 7:41AM
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lilion

Thank you both. I have an idea now of what to do.

    Bookmark     February 27, 2009 at 4:57PM
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homemommy

I would separate out the sprouts from the seeds that have not sprouted. put the ones that have sprouted into an open tray, buy another black tray, or even just get a roasting pan / baking dish *something* to put them in temporarily. Put the sprouts back under the lights.

Take the tray that you likely have a humidity dome (clear plastic top) for, and put the unsprouted back in it. If you don't have a lid, then get one. Again, just a couple $$. I like to provide stubborn seeds with some bottom heat. My favourite source, is a home heating vent. Put a grate on a heating vent, then the tray on top.

the marigolds should not be giving you problems. They are pretty easy to germinate. Where did the seed come from? As for the brussel sprouts and spinich, I am really not sure exactly what they need... May wish to google it.

    Bookmark     February 28, 2009 at 10:23PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Any variety that say on the packet "direct sow after all danger of frost has passed - can be direct sowed in containers just as in the ground with no problem.

But for those that need an indoor headstart (indicated on the packet normally by saying start indoors 6-8 weeks prior to last frost) the results are pretty dismal if you try direct seeding them.

Marigolds, zinnas, poppies, etc. do well if direct seeded. If you will post over on the Annuals Forum here they can tell you exactly which flowers need indoor starts and which can be direct seeded.

Dave

    Bookmark     February 28, 2009 at 4:41PM
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ellenr22 - NJ - Zone 6b/7a(6b/7a)

will do.
thanks
e

    Bookmark     February 28, 2009 at 5:49PM
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memphistigerlily(7)

I'm a newbie gardener so I can't answer your question but aren't these dips just crazy. It was like 72 degrees yesterday here, and I just heard it suppose to snow tommorrow and we rarely ever get snow.

    Bookmark     February 27, 2009 at 1:14PM
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chihuahua6(8b coastal SC)

Yes the weather has been very odd lately. February is usually mild here and it's been up and down all month. My cannas were coming up in January and then a cold front came in and made them die back again. I didn't know they were up until after the damage was done.

Now I have been covering and uncovering my plants at night. I have done it five times already.

    Bookmark     February 27, 2009 at 8:10PM
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