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You'll find many discussions about this question over on the Vegetable Gardening forum here, assuming you are talking about vegetables. If you mean flowers then each has its own forum with advice on what to feed and how to prepare the soil before transplanting.
Both of the fertilizers you list are liquids. Liquids are normally used after planting to feed the plants throughout the season once they are established.
Vegetable garden beds may be fertilized with any number of things, both organic and synthetic, prior to planting - compost, composted manures, dry granular fertilizers, etc.- things that are dry and mixed in with the soil.
Whether your garden soil actually needs fertilizers or not usually depends on the results of a soil test. You can add fertilizers without a soil test of course but it would just be a guessing game as to what and how much to add and it is easy to add too much.
Check out the gardening forum for your type of plants for more detailed information.
Dave

I don't know of home gardeners who grow other "bulb" plants from seed. But there are lots of tubers/bulbs that you can buy, and then lift in the fall for storage, though if you can grow a coconut palm, most of them - including dahlias, you probably don't have to lift, unless you are going to divide them. Many people in zone 8 in the US only dig their Dahlias every couple of years to divide the tubers.
There is a Bulb forum on GW - I would ask this question there if you really want to start from seed.

helhhello.
thank you for the reply. I have grown eucomis hipestrum and many other aftrican bulbs including the rapid that smell foul. the seeds are so much cheaper than bulbs to buy.
and dahlias as fantastic flowers.
I'll ask the bulb forum.
leo

In small containers liquid ferts work much better than any granular. Faster absorbing and easier to control dilution and uptake and avoid root damage. Seedlings of any plant are normally fed at 1/4-1/2 regular strength of something in the rated range of 5-1-1. They can't cope with any thing stronger.
If you only want to use the granules you have then I would first dissolve a label-stated amount in water and then double the water dilution before using it. But without knowing the nutrient ratings on it I can't say for sure that it would be safe even at that dilution.
Dave

I doubt they will have any effect on the cherry. However they might be 'farming' aphids. Blast off the aphids with the hose and the ants will go way. BTW you do know that a cherry tree from seed will not be the same as its parent, don't you? So I hope you weren't expecting fruit or pretty pink flowers. Buying cherry tree seeds was really not a good bargain unless it was a species. You'd get the same results sowing the pits of cherries from the fruit bowl.


I did a water bottle greenhouse, more or less like the video attached.
I used one cut across a Trader Joe's sparkling water bottle (18 oz, nice shape), and then had to make some slits to make things fit back, slightly frustrating but effective.
My bottom halves were about 4 inches deep. I didn't use drain holes, just misted with weak chamomile tea. You can see through the clear plastic and avoid over-watering.
My window sill was warm enough, but some of my peppers were slow, like a few popping up in 2-3 weeks and a lot more a week later.
(I have heard that soaking pepper seeds (2-8 hours) is effective, and may try that in the future.)
Here is a link that might be useful: Mini Greenhouse

Don't ever give up. I'm in a cooler climate and do not plant till June 1st.
Last year i dumped two trays of starts...fell back off the shelf, behind the shelf. Strong hearty fellas and saved many but lost all identification. I started more, but did buy just a couple cheap six packs at my local nursery. (to mend my broken heart, lol)
The infants quickly caught up with the larger purchased.
I always spend a twenty bill at the nursery. Just to get a bit of 'green' in the garden while i tend and till for some cheerleader support when all my direct seeded lettuces and others are just tiny babies.
I don't need tomatoes this year, but my peppers did not do well.
So, my tiny list to purchase is a six pack of good strong salad heads, peppers, celery, and leeks...all the things my nursery does so much better than i can do. Maybe cosmos for some easy early color.
Everything else i do myself.
Should be warm and sunny in Del today and all weekend? Maybe give them a bit of real sun or better, some bright shade outside.

Sleevendog,
Thanx for the encouragement! I'm going out today to buy a better light and start seeds today but I'm going to keep the ones I've got going and see how they do. I'm sure I need to re-pot some of them, they sure are leggy - for today they'll get some afternoon sun and hopefully turn into strong plants :)
Cazy weather btw, it rained buckets for two days, my bed's a mud pit! Now it's sunny :)
And I hear you on the cheerleader support! It's definitely nice to have things already flourishing early. I still might pick up some transplants and who knows I might have too many plants afterwards. I'll keep my fingers crossed, the seed starting has proven to be a bit tricky for me - both the lighting and the timing of it all.
It's funny a lot of people say mid or late April for my area so I was surprised to read May 10th on the Del gov website. A lady I found who ships tomato transplants (heirloomtomatoplants dot com) says she has a lot of customers in Del and doesn't ship until Mid May so, yeah, I'm making my way up the learning curve.
I hope your plants do well this year!
This post was edited by Crystena on Sun, May 4, 14 at 13:46

Did you cold stratify it first? That is required. Plus germination time is variable and can take up to 3 months.
Surface sow only as light is required for germination. Germination can be very slow. After sowing, seal container in a plastic and leave at 60-65F for 2 weeks, then place in a refrigerator (not freezer) for 3-6 weeks. After this return to the recommended germination temperature. If germination does not occur in 6-10 weeks return to the fridge for a further 3-6 weeks. per Thompson-Morgan Germination database
Dave

Astrantia minor is apparently slow and difficult to cultivate. It comes from the Alps so I assume it needs a period of stratification and not particularly high temps for germination. Weren't there any instructions with the seed? Here's another thread on it:
Here is a link that might be useful: Astrantia minor

Yes that is a good one. Thanks for posting it.
Dave
Here is a link that might be useful: Clickable link to site

That bit of plastic bottle is too small imo. Get a proper pot or container like a yoghurt pot, maybe .25l. It MUST have drainage holes. Just fill it with seed sowing medium. Take a small pinch of seed between finger and thumb and sprinkle over the surface of the medium. Water from the bottom until it looks wet on the surface. That will be enough to bed in the seeds. I don't find any need to cover the seed. Put cling film over the pot and place somewhere warm and light. The seedlings should show in a few days to a week. Take off the film and remove from the bottom heat. Keep in a warm light place. When the seedlings are 2 - 3 cm tall and have at least 1 set of true leaves transplant to separate pots, or, and this is what I do, don't thin and grow them dense. Because, in my climate basil doesn't do that well because of lack of heat so the plants don't get very large. In your climate they may get big and need their own pots or in-ground planting.

Why not read through the FAQs here? They cover all the basics on how to grow anything from seed.
And surely you can find better containers to use than the plastic bottle you linked above.
But first you have to have mature, viable seeds. That means buying them or harvesting them only AFTER the plant blooms and then the blooms turn brown and dry on the plants.
Dave
Here is a link that might be useful: FAQs- How to grow from seed

What have you done to promote germination? For almost all iris including siberica, I like to give them a warm moist period of 2-4 weeks, then a moist chill of 40F for a month or more before bringing back to warm. Fall sowing outside works great in my Z8b. Not all seeds will germinate at the same time, they could be scattered over many days or even weeks.
No matter which iris, the seedling makes it's appearance like the tip of a pointy sharp blade of grass. Pics of iris seedlings here although not siberica but which will look same:
Here is a link that might be useful: Seed Site


I want to ask. What season is the best for planting cherry seeds?
As far as I can tell, it doesn't matter. I have gotten zero luck and I have been trying for years.
I put some outside last fall (again) and nothing so far has come up. I tried the wet paper towel thing and not one germinated and I did dozens of them. I will keep trying though!