6,340 Garden Web Discussions | Growing from Seed

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greenwood85(6b)

buddyben- I'm sure that the pioneers were direct seeding or relying on volunteers. I doubt many of them were starting seed early indoors, or at least not as early as you can today with artificial lighting.

    Bookmark     February 1, 2009 at 3:13PM
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RG100

I can confirm that you actually dont need lights to grow plants. I have been successfully growing zinnias, petunias, impatiens and other plants by just putting them in my south facing kitchen window. It is actually like a patio door so it is quite big. sometimes they do get leggy but I see no difference in a few weeks.

    Bookmark     February 3, 2009 at 11:17AM
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zubababy(6b Utah)

I was having a problem with germinating begonias in a regular seed mix, and keeping them alive. So, I started a different batch in just turface, and just about every single seed germinated and is just starting to sprout their true leaf.

    Bookmark     February 3, 2009 at 1:02AM
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macthayer(z9a NV)

Try Heronswood. They currently carry a Helianthus, although it doesn't specifically say "argophyllus". Sorry, that was all I could find. MacThayer

Here is a link that might be useful: Heronswood

    Bookmark     February 2, 2009 at 1:52AM
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wordwiz

Lumens make a huge difference, especially if they are coming from a spectrum plants can use.

For instance, on a bright sunny day in summer, your plants will be getting ~100,000-120,000 lumens.

I would be wary of a fluro tube that promises 100 lumens per watt. The only ones I know of that do that produce a lot of light in a spectrum plants do not use.

Mike

    Bookmark     February 1, 2009 at 5:04PM
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bdobs

Thanks Mike
I think I will stick to what I bought at HD

Two 3200 Lumen 40 watt Daylight 6000K(or close to that number)_
Two 3000 Lumen 40 watt Coolwhite 4000K(or close to that number)

I plan on using one of each on the two shoplights I will have sied by side

Sound good?

    Bookmark     February 1, 2009 at 5:12PM
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yiorges-z5il

The Purple Bells seed germinates at soil temperatures of 65-70F taking 12 to 42 days to germinate.. bottom heat may be need to get the soil to 70F

    Bookmark     February 1, 2009 at 11:08AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Also, Druse suggests soaking seeds overnight if not sown fresh upon harvesting, adding that germination may take as long as 60 days. Barely cover seed, don't sow too deeply.

    Bookmark     February 1, 2009 at 11:11AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Most all reputable seed suppliers will offer dwarf varieties of both. TGS (linked above) is excellent but there is also Cooks Kitchen Garden, Johnnys Seeds, Seeds of Change, and many more.

The Garden Bazaar directory here provides links to 3 pages of seed vendors. ;)

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Garden Bazaar - Seed Vendors

    Bookmark     January 3, 2009 at 2:04PM
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johnbro

I,m trying Bush, Bush Champion and Big Dwarf from Tomato Growers Supply. Good Luck,
John

    Bookmark     January 31, 2009 at 4:54PM
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belleville_rose_gr

looks good

Here is a link that might be useful: Gardening by the Seat of my Pants

    Bookmark     January 26, 2009 at 4:53PM
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phloxie2000(4)

Quite the set up there!!!!!!
Everything looks great!

Here is a link that might be useful: Little River Nursery

    Bookmark     January 31, 2009 at 12:23PM
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petzold6596(8b southern NM)

What you have described indicates a nutrient deficiency. I suggest a 1/4 strength fertilizer solution watering once a week until you have six to eight true leaves then increase to 1/2 strength.

    Bookmark     January 30, 2009 at 9:16PM
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phloxie2000(4)

This is a definite nutrition problem , I would go with what petzold says . Another questions, where are you obtaining your seeds from?

Here is a link that might be useful: LittleRiverNursery

    Bookmark     January 31, 2009 at 12:18PM
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petzold6596(8b southern NM)

Save your money. In a multi-bulb fixture use equal number cool white and warm white bulbs.

    Bookmark     January 31, 2009 at 10:53AM
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merrymerry(6)

Last year I tried 15 of the Jiffy pellet pots. 0 had mold in them and 0 damping off. That surprised me because I used the Park's seed starting system and lost half of those.

I had to take the Jiffy plants out of the plastic tray they came in as soon as they started to grow (accidental crunching of the flimsy plastic tray...) and I put them on a regular dinner plate. They lived on the plate until they were planted out. Maybe the tray crunching was a blessing in disguise?

    Bookmark     January 29, 2009 at 2:38PM
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tomakers(SE MA Zone 5/6 or ?)

A spray with a VERY dilute mixture of 3% H2O2 and water gets rid of any mold. Last year was the 1st time in MANY years of using Jiffy7s that I have even seen any mold. I have NEVER(knocking on wood) had any problem with damping off with the Jiffy7s. I have been using them since their introduction and have had 0 problems. Watering from the bottom is the key. IMHO they are great.
JMO,
Tom

    Bookmark     January 31, 2009 at 4:07AM
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wordwiz

Your Frost Free Day is May 7, so give it another week, given how the seasons seem to be changing a bit over the last few year. That would make it May 14.

Tomatoes and peppers will take (IMO) from 10-12 weeks from the time they germinate until they are large enough to transplant assuming you want a decent size (8-10" tall with four sets of leaves). Add a week to that to allow the plants to harden off, so you are looking at 11-13 weeks. Counting backward, two weeks in May, four weeks in April, four weeks in March which leaves you with 1-3 weeks in February. Since it will probably take a week to germinate the seeds, if you sow them now or within the next three weeks, you should be set to go.

Mike

    Bookmark     January 29, 2009 at 8:45PM
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gods_gardener(5)

thank you very much mike.... i will do some weekend farming next week and plant them next friday..... im really not loking for the PERFECT start, but any start is better than last years...... all i did was sow them outside, rather late too..... THANKS again...

God bless

    Bookmark     January 30, 2009 at 8:26AM
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yiorges-z5il

Consider time on plant but they REQUIRE a 60 day period at 70F then a 90 day period at 40F then lightly cover seed soil temperature for germination 60-80F. May take up to 18 months to germinate..... The Pulp is usually removed by washing.....

    Bookmark     January 29, 2009 at 8:37AM
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mcbdz(8 Louisiana)

Thanks yiorges-z5il,
I'll try that. Also may winter sow some and see how they work.
Pattie

    Bookmark     January 29, 2009 at 7:40PM
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yiorges-z5il

Will take 6-8 weeks from sowing seed to transplant. may flower 1st year..... Will not be winter hardy in your area.

    Bookmark     January 28, 2009 at 5:13PM
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yiorges-z5il

You can either let them grow one more year where they are... OR ... Move them to there perminate location & let them grow 1 more year.

    Bookmark     January 28, 2009 at 7:46AM
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belleville_rose_gr

I start my seeds from previous years experience. For example least year I started geraniums late and they grew okay so this year I started them first and they will be blooming when its time to plant. I pay attention only to the frost date I can keep them healthy till then

Here is a link that might be useful: Gardening by the Seat of my Pants

    Bookmark     January 26, 2009 at 4:56PM
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sheltieche

I know what my last frost date and what previous years taught me. I start seeds indoor and turn and twist dates depending on the weather, my mood and time availability.

    Bookmark     January 26, 2009 at 7:34PM
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