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yiorges-z5il

Good advise BUT here in Springfield Illinois area there is no such problem a more than adaquate supply will be ready for or April 15 our last average frost date

    Bookmark     January 13, 2009 at 6:35PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

That may be difficult Sophia. You might try posting over on the Gardening in Metro New York forum and ask them. Should get some good tips there for sources.

Good luck!

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Metro NY Gardening forum

    Bookmark     January 12, 2009 at 10:55PM
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naturegirl_2007 5B SW Michigan(5B SW Michigan)

"if this doesn't exist, where would you go to buy vegetable seeds in general?"

I'm assuming you mean the not-so-unusual veggies. Around here most garden centers at Lowe's, Home Depot, Menards, Walmart, Kmart, etc. carry veggie seeds. They are just beginning to put them out for the season here...still too early at several of the places. Many nurseries/florists also sell seeds in Feb.-May. I've seen more heirloom varieties in stores recently, especially at some upscale nurseries. Whole Foods and other specialty food stores often have small heirloom seed racks in the spring, too.

I have no idea what kind of stores you have in Manhattan beyond the big names we see in the news. I've heard of many rooftop gardeners in big cites, though, and am sure somewhere not too far away must sell seeds.

I also like to see the seed packs before buying. But sometimes if I really want a particular variety I need to order seeds. I've been pleased with all my seed orders. I think it is bad experiences that people talk about forever, and all the good service is seldom mentioned.

    Bookmark     January 13, 2009 at 5:18PM
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outatime

I don't know if I am over thinking this or not. The seeds sprouted today. Well sort of, they appeared out of the soil but it was basically the seed with the entire casing still intact with the root below it.

Should I cover this up with soil or just let it be.

    Bookmark     January 12, 2009 at 11:22PM
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karyn1(7a)

Let it be. The growing leaves should break off the seed coat as they unfurl.

    Bookmark     January 13, 2009 at 10:58AM
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clumsygrdner

When growing indoors, transplanting is a recommended practice. When I grow indoors, I plant impatiens and pansy in foil loaf pans with shredded moist sheet moss at the bottom. (NOT milled peat moss!) I always have good root production which makes transplanting much easier!

I transplant into neat newspaper pots I learned to make on this site, also tucking the sheetmoss in the bottom, and then I just plant the whole kit-n-kaboodle outside.

Here is a link that might be useful: Newspaper pots

    Bookmark     January 12, 2009 at 5:26AM
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rachel_z6(7)

I too broadcast spread impatiens all together in an open flat then use the prick out method to transplant them into cellpacks. often the petunia seed i get is pelleted, so that goes into a plug tray (between 76 and 128). the seed on both is too small to start in individual cells that are much bigger. you could try market-packs - the compressed peat or fiber trays about 4"x6" designed for 6 plants. In a hobby greenhouse you might have more trouble with germination in those though. they dry out faster. It might seem time consuming, but you'll get better plants if you start in small trays and transplant when they need it. it encourages more growth.

    Bookmark     January 12, 2009 at 11:29AM
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magus(8a BC)

Black and blue I don't think is a hybrid. It's a variety of S. guaranitica. Whether it comes true from seed, I don't know, but it should produce seeds.

    Bookmark     October 23, 2006 at 4:23PM
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steve-wright_att_net

It will definately produce seed but the seed will fall out soon after the flowers die so you need to get them early. I suggest taking stems and put im paper bags to dry out and separate later. I did not get seeds this year as I was sick during the time I needed to collect seed. Last year I collected 50plus on just a few plants.

    Bookmark     January 11, 2009 at 11:52PM
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gardenerme(z9/21 inland socal)

I have been starting seedlings outside in Al's gritty mix. I can usually pull the seedlings out when very tiny because the mix is so loose. In addition, the root systems are huge compared with the little plant, which is a result of having a lot of airspace in the mix allowing the roots to grow fast.

I usually leave them in until they fully grow their second set of leaves. Then I move them to gritty mix again with much more spacing and let them grow until they are an inch or 2. It is so easy to get the roots out of the gritty mix, I can usually use a fork, and when the mix falls off, it's fine with me because it does not attach to fine feeder roots so the roots remain vastly intact.

    Bookmark     January 9, 2009 at 12:50PM
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busylizzy(z5 PA)

All the tiny seed/transplants you mentioned I have just gone to winter/Spring sowing..it's just so much easier with the amount of seeds I sow, they can be left alone till planted out

    Bookmark     January 11, 2009 at 11:31AM
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heyitzbenny

I usually use water right from the tap that is at a temperature slightly warmer than room temperature. Soak a paper towel with it, wrap up the seeds, stick in a ziplock bag and onto the top of the fridge they go. There is a heating pipe about 5-10 feet away so the lil guys think its spring or summer and start sprouting within a week or two. crazy huh!?

    Bookmark     January 3, 2009 at 6:53PM
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busylizzy(z5 PA)

Room Temperature

    Bookmark     January 11, 2009 at 11:11AM
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Suzi AKA DesertDance So CA Zone 9b

Update! Over two days ago I decided to put the other plants in the ground. They all had 2 sets of leaves and looked pretty established. Therefore, I whacked the bottom of the egg shells and cracked them off. I was surprised to see so many white roots there. I then made cracks in 2 sides and gently put them in ground mixed with potting soil and vermiculite. They are FINE and growing new leaves! I'm glad I only murdered the first one. I guess I set it out too early. Lesson learned. Wait till they get established.

    Bookmark     December 8, 2008 at 10:04AM
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Suzi AKA DesertDance So CA Zone 9b

Update! They are all alive and growing. They are from 4" to 6" tall now. They seem happy! I now have some chili peppers started in my little egg shells! When I get blossoms, I'll take a picture!

    Bookmark     January 10, 2009 at 5:43PM
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chriszone5iowa

In the past we have ordered seeds from Burpees (good but expensive), Gurneys (cheap & vegetable seeds are reliable), Henry Field (ditto as Gurneys), Thompson & Morgan ( expensive & very few seeds germinated), E & S (cheap but only fair germination). I am sure there are more but do not remember all. For vegetables that are standards such as some beet varieties we use seeds from Walmart if they are cheaper.

I agree you can't find some varieties of flowers or veggies without trying the more expensive catalogs. I have often googled for seeds I have difficulty finding. I then try to find reviews of those companies before I order.

    Bookmark     January 10, 2009 at 6:44AM
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gardenmaven(Z5 MI)

Jelitto has great seeds, if you're looking for perennials. I also like the North American Rock Garden Society.I found some other interesting sources here:

Here is a link that might be useful: Seed Sources

    Bookmark     January 10, 2009 at 8:59AM
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nikkineel(GA 8/7b)

When did you start them? Thanks Nikki

    Bookmark     January 8, 2009 at 10:19PM
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karyn1(7a)

It depends on the variety and how fresh they are. Some varieties can take up to a year to germinate while others a couple weeks. Soaking the seeds in orange juice for a couple days prior to planting helps as does bottom heat. The fresher the seed the higher the germination rate in most cases. Here's a link to a great site for passiflora info.

Here is a link that might be useful: Passiflora

    Bookmark     January 9, 2009 at 7:22PM
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yiorges-z5il

The procedure you describe sound like it will meet YOUR NEEDS. go for it......

    Bookmark     January 8, 2009 at 8:55AM
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rachel_z6(7)

that sounds like the perfect reuse for a container, and it's still recyclable afterward. even a great size for the windowsill.

    Bookmark     January 9, 2009 at 6:34PM
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monkey665(6a)

Hi

I use the 72 cell and have left the seedlings in there for longer than 6 weeks and they have done wonderfully. Space is always an issue. I only have some much room on top of the fridge and under the one light. Burpee sells them in a set and I have gotten them at home depot. I do know lowes has them also. I am not sure if they have the smaller sizes. They may be more cost effective buying them locally. I want to say that they may be $10.00.

Good Luck

Linda

    Bookmark     January 9, 2009 at 11:52AM
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shebear(z8 NCentralTex)

Zinnias are not going to like being transplanted. Save some of the seed and throw it out where you want the plants. Bet they do better than the inside ones. My cosmos and zinnias reseed every year. In fact I've had snapdragons do it too.

Might want to try both ways.

    Bookmark     January 9, 2009 at 6:26PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

We'd need to know what flowers specifically you are asking about please.

Actually there are very few who actually require either. But many may germinate faster and better with or without and that may explain some of the differing opinions you are finding. To list all those would be pages and pages long. ;)

Meanwhile check out the Thompson-Morgan Seed Germination databasr linked below as it is considered a very reliable source.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: TM Seed Germination database

    Bookmark     January 9, 2009 at 5:28PM
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jbird_in

Thank you all so much for the information. So much I didn't know...good to find out they need light to germinate. I'm looking forward to these pretty little plants in my garden.

    Bookmark     February 28, 2007 at 12:29PM
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shorebill(7b MD EShore)

I am trying to find seed of cooperi. Where did you locate yours. I am also looking for seed of delosperma John Profittt and sutherlandii.

Thanks Bill

    Bookmark     January 9, 2009 at 10:09AM
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