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For starting plants in my basement I use a 4x2 folding table with 4 shop lights hanging over it. It can handle 4 trays which hold 21 newspaper pots each, so 81 plants. The table I picked up from the side of the road (someone was throwing it out, but I have seen them for about $20), the shop lights(4) were less than $20 each and I use the cheap bulbs (>$2 each). The lights are suspended using the S hooks that come with them, clothes line, and eye screws(8) and lanyards(4) in my floor joists, so I can raise and lower them individually.

I managed to get a shelf at Lowes. It was really supposed to be some sort of green house. A plastic cover came with it but I've put that aside for now. I have the shop lights ($9 each. Yay!) hanging on the shelves and it seems pretty good so far.
Thanks for all your help!


I just read what my book (The Plant Propagators' Bible) says about growing these from seed. She (Miranda Smith) says:
"You can purchase seeds for some cultivars. Plant them early inside. They require light to germinate and respond best to daytime soil temperatures of 65 degrees and nighttime temperatures of 50 to 55. They will germinate in 1-3 months, so prick out seedlings as they germinate, but don't throw away the flat."
She mentions nothing about stratification. What do you guys/gals think?

Thanks for trying there plant lady in Colorado. I don't think bulk seed is available and the plant is so easily propagated from cuttings. We need so many and thought the seed way might be the way to go cost wise. So we'll probably end up buying plugs.
I have a cousin living in the Springs and is a nurse as well. I'm pretty sure she works at Ft. Carson. Name's Linda and she's been there a while.
Thanks again
Marshall

I've never worked at Ft Carson, so I'm sure I don't know your cousin.
As for the plumbago....
I have a huge patch of it, but I can't ever remember seeing any seed.
I'm sure it's there, but must be really small.
Maybe that's why we can't find it for sale.
Kathy



I agree with nckvilledudes - there are far too many variables involved. No way to justify a blanket statement that things do better in OR out of a container.
size of container (most use one too small)
type of container (self-watering, clay, plastic, etc.)
color of container
sun exposure
potting mix used (soil-less only in containers)
fertilization/watering regime
garden soil tilth
garden soil nutrient levels
type of plant
pests
etc.
If you are having consistently poor results with container plants then I'd suspect it is because a) the containers are too small and b) you are using a poor quality mix or worse, garden dirt, in the containers.
Dave

The simple answer is Yes... But you can protect them by 1) keeping the soil damp (throughout the winter) every time it warms up rewater the plants. 2) adding straw, leaves, mulch will reduce evaporation.
Roots freeze at about 28F IF the soil is damp/wet it will freeze at 32F AND STAY AT THAT TEMPERATURE. IF the soil is dry then it will reach the same as the air temp in your case -10F & the roots will freeze

Bernadette, typing the latin name, followed by 'sow' or 'propagate' will usually lead you to a good database that includes those hard-to-find toughies, I tend to stay away from suggestions from most personal websites.
I don't grow it, I suspect it's too wet here in winter to establish perennially or grow well.
Hardy Plants database, not even Clothiers had this one but warm, followed by moist chill if no germination occurs is standard for most silene...
Here is a link that might be useful: Hardy Plants

most annuals or veggies do have short lifetime- they are preprogrammed to grow fast produce flowers/fruits all season and die at the end of the cycle. Giving them good soil with plenty of moisture or whatever conditions they need will get you great results. Perennials have slightly different schedule- that old rule sleep, creep,leap works well to explain why first year perennials are usually puny and only by third year they achieve maturity. Of course, it is generalization, there are first year blooming perennials but they also need to be divided every second year as well to perform well. Plants that live 90 years or so like clematis are found to do much better rootbound in the small pots initially and it takes a few years before such clem will get into its own strength.

apple seed REQUIRE a cold treatment (40F) for 4 months. (2) It was probably self polinated (3) Yet the chances of getting a tree exactly like the parent. is slim to none. (4) The key is "exactly" several will be close & (5) you will only know which seedling is the best when it is 5-10 years old.


freesia will grow from seed and multiply from bulbs also. When my freesia go to seed I collect them and scatter them around other parts of the garden and just let them come up by themselves.
Gardenia. .. lightly cover seed soil temp 65-70 F taking takeing 25-30 days to germinate.
Freesia. lighty cover seed soil temp 65F taking 21-25 days to germinate.