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Tina, i bet if you start them early enough indoors you could get nice sized plants by the time winter comes along. I had some volunteer seedlings come up in May, and here are some pics taken last week. They are FAST growers.
Any chance it also goes by a different name? Google pulls up nothing by that name and even Heirloom Seeds doesn't list it in all their heirloom lettuce varieties. You might check out their site and see if any of the photos of heirloom lettuce ring a bell with you. What type is it - heal or leaf - and what color?
I do find several articles about a man named Ziegler who did a lot of research on lettuce back in the early 60's but nothing about a variety named after him.
Dave
Plants have to be sexually mature to reproduce; improved varieties are cloned via cuttings. Butterfly Bush seeds need stratification (cold treatment) before they germinate, usually 3-4 weeks in the fridge will do.
This link shows pictures of the seed pod and comments on seed collection and handling:
wintersown.org/wseo1/Butterfly_Bush_Seeds.html
Tommie
I seeded it in spring and it did not bloom the first year . I planted it in very rough soil ( rocky limestone rubble)and it did not get moisture here in central Texas, high on a limestone hill. It grows slow but comes back bigger every year, no special care taken to protect it from sun or winter. I am Zone 8b but almost 8a. I moved it from a somewhat shady spot where it wasn't growing much and shoved it out into the harsh rock garden and when it got its roots into the rock, it took off. I don't think it liked the process of being moved. Maybe you could just bag it where it grows, once it is planted outside. It grows very easily from cuttings.- mara
I go to my neighborhood nursery and they have a recycle spot of all their trays and 4" pots. They let me take home all I want. i have a veritable baby nursey going under my oak trees. I germinate seed in them outside in here in Texas. I ahve a bout 100 of them.
I have found the plastic trays from Lowe's or Home Depot, the ones that hold the larger pots until they are sold are PERFECT. they are about 4 to 5 inches deep, they have holes in the bottom already for drainage and there are 6 spots, so you can plant all one thing or several things (just be sure to label well). They obviously come in different sizes and style, they all work :)
Peat pots BTW are the WORST and I'd never use them again. Styrofoam cups work 1000 times better to me.
I also recycle the plastic 6 pack trays that most plants come in. Notice the big plastic storage container in the bottom right corner of the photo...these work great too.
here are some pics of seedlings in these.
I have also taken them from these containers and then transplanted them to the styrofoam cup after they get their first true leaves...They to the garden.
PS: They are free. And these take out trays work great too
I have heard that cleome likes cold stratification like mentioned above. I have also heard that they like several cycles of cold/ warm /cold/warm I throw mine in pots outside and they always come up in my pots. They don't seem to come up in my bed because my soil ids dry and the soil moisture on top is not good for germinating most things. They come up in the pots easily. I through them in the pots during the seeding process and think nothing more about them till they sprout.
Seed will germinate if the temperature is in the correct range for the species and the seed coat dormancy has been overcome either by stratifiying or nicking and moisture is available. Many gardeners start seed way too early and have plants too big/too leggy/or root bound that do not transplant well. Al
seeds have different temps. for germination. Tomatoes are ones that like 70-75 degrees. I have a room in my basement that I heat for seeds like tomatoes. Other seeds need a cooler temp like 60.Once germination has taken place a cooler temp would be okay but 40 degrees is too cool. Myself I have started plants earlier then the packet states but I provide plenty of light till I can place them in my Gh in March. I have Geraniums now that came up within 3 days and will pot them up this weekend, They may start blooming by April but most annuals that is not a problem
Will have to investigate the link you provided. COTW is the source for all things clematis and am surprised that they still list the parentage of Margaret Hunt as unknown. You may want to provide COTW with the specific link to the information regarding Margaret Hunt and it viticella heritage since they tend to be the main repository of info on clematis. It is by far the largest database on clematis information that I am aware of.
sewobsesed, does that mean I have to plant two different types of apples? So I'd have to plant pink lady and a winesap? Or do I need three in the case of winesap, so I'd need a pink lady, fuji, and a winesap? Just examples to see if I understand. Thank you again.
Use the chart on Page 2.
whoops, having trouble posting my followup. homegrown back.
followed a cool link and found this gal's blog and she has some wicked good Utuube snippets about this subject.
http://happyhobbyhabit.blogspot.com/
just follow that link and enjoy.
Are you asking for advice on starting plants indoors?
Couple things I learned from last year's experience...
- 24 hours of light is not too much (my plants grew better after I increased the light from 16 to 24 hours)
- Don't overwater
- Don't use water that has been through a water softener (I tried both softened and hard water. The plants that I used soft water on looked a little sickly when I put them in the garden)
- Don't start too early. The plants that did best for me were the ones that I started a little later and were smaller. (I started some later because I overwatered some and killed them)
- Repot often to bigger pots (the plants seemed to like that)
- Don't overfertilize (They only needed a little)
Hope it helps.
Rick
I agree with the lights. I have left my lights on 24/7 this year and the results are good.I started some seeds last weekend which is early but have many varieties to sow. I also have a small Greenhouse(6x8) I will place them there in March.
Hi Dirtdiggerky, If you have any more lupine seeds--then I would just scatter them around where you want them to grow. If you have any more plants, I would plant them outside now. Lupines like cool weather. Try it and let me how it works for you. Lucylou
i grow alot of lupine, i have 10 dogs and the pee them to death, just the right height i guess. i have had your problem many times, now i start them inside, i use lg pop bottles, chop the top so you can use as a dome. i plant about five, when the start to get leaves and kind of pop out of the soil seed and root, i burry them in aquarium sand, just so a little green is showing, i repeat this about 3x as they grow, when it looks safe i put a fan on them, to strengthen the stems. they are just so beautiful! cath