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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Nerium oleander - Seed, light (do not cover seed), outdoors in Spring or sow indoors 70-75F for germination in 30-90 days.

Is this winter hardy for you there, I understand it takes light frost occasionally but would need protection in my Z8

    Bookmark     December 3, 2008 at 10:59AM
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bernadette_gourder(5 from Newaygo, MI)

Oh, I'm sorry. It is the American Bittersweet or false bittersweet, the one that's endangered. They say that the invasive oriental one is much easier to propagate by seed, but where I've looked they make no mention of how to plant the seed of the American Bittersweet, so I am looking to you guys and gals for some help.

Thank you!

    Bookmark     December 3, 2008 at 9:13AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Celastrus scandens (typo above, sorry :)) - cleaned seed, stratify (provide moist chill) 3 to 6 months @ 39F, move to 70F for germ.

    Bookmark     December 3, 2008 at 10:52AM
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yiorges-z5il

when the berries are red the seed is fully mature. In a water bath remove the pulp & rince the seed then continue as before
In a comercial opperation it is not "worth it" BUT for you to have 1-2 plants/baskets/clumps then go ahead. It is also a good learning experience for cildren/ grand children/ neighbor child

    Bookmark     December 2, 2008 at 5:44PM
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tomakers(SE MA Zone 5/6 or ?)

Do you think they will ripen off the plant or did I waste my time? I realize I could have bought seed, in fact I think I have some somewhere, I just thought it would be interesting.

    Bookmark     December 3, 2008 at 2:41AM
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yiorges-z5il

Factors controling the rate and quality of growth. 1) soil including quanity, quality, drainage, fertility & moisture content 2) light including quality & quanity & duration
Only you can evaluate your situation & determine where you can inprove the rate of growth.

    Bookmark     December 2, 2008 at 8:48AM
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yotetrapper(7)

Sooo do heirloom fruits come true from seeds? If someone got seeds from say, heirloom apples or cherries, would they grow right?

Also, what about nuts, such as hazelnuts?

    Bookmark     November 29, 2008 at 12:25PM
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sewobsessed

There are ridiculously long threads on the subject
Here,
Here,
and Here.

    Bookmark     December 1, 2008 at 10:02AM
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sheltieche

Geraniums as pelargonium or geraniums as hardy geranium?

    Bookmark     November 30, 2008 at 11:28AM
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belleville_rose_gr

pelargonium I just check the seeds before leaving for work and was surprised to see emerging plants.

    Bookmark     December 1, 2008 at 7:02AM
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belleville_rose_gr

I read on your post on the WS forum. Not all seeds can be WS so you may want to keep your setup. I know you want a rain barrel why not buy a garbage can and make your own much cheaper

    Bookmark     November 28, 2008 at 8:43AM
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cheerpeople

Lois,

You may have tired of the work involved and just want to be done with it. That's nice of you to offer it to another.
But I second Belleville's thoughts. WS works with some but not all in our 'tween zones. I suggest you try spring sowing vs winter sowing with the same seed packet and see which works better.
Karen

    Bookmark     November 30, 2008 at 9:40PM
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yiorges-z5il

Flowers are steril...... only method to propagate Farfugium japonica is division of this rhizome plant

    Bookmark     November 28, 2008 at 8:03PM
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sheltieche

ha, I was thinking that since it is ligularia group it would be warm germination plant,also same as ligularia seedheads will produce lots of fluff/ infertile seeds and only few fat ones- fertile. I am positive I have seen seed being offered on NARGS seed exchange. Of course, those fancy farfugiums that are being offered will have to be divided but the basic one should produce at least few viable seeds.

    Bookmark     November 30, 2008 at 5:24PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

The problem with holly in general (Ilex) from seed is it is very slow. Most types do best with warm moist, followed by cold moist, brought back to warm again cycles - if sowing outdoors Fall may be better. Even then, germination can take 2-3 years. Semi-ripe cuttings taken in late Summer or early Fall faster.

    Bookmark     November 29, 2008 at 11:58AM
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yiorges-z5il

I take soft wood cuttings (June/July apply 0.3% IBA (Rooting hormone) Stick in well drained soil & mist taking 40-80 days to root.

    Bookmark     November 29, 2008 at 8:01AM
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token28001(zone7b NC)

Good deal. Thanks for the info!

    Bookmark     November 29, 2008 at 8:35AM
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yiorges-z5il

Do not cover the seed soil temp 60-70F & takes 30-90 days to germinate.

    Bookmark     November 28, 2008 at 5:58PM
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jaynine

thanks for germ. info. can you tell me what the seeds look like?

    Bookmark     November 28, 2008 at 6:06PM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

Check you soil temperature with a cheap thermometer from the grocery store. I think they are called candy thermometers (Some meat thermometers don't register low enough temperatures), have a metal probe that can be stuck into the soil and a dial on top to read temperatures.

I too have noticed that newer furnaces put out lower temperature air. Also the top of newer refrigerators are not as warm as the old ones were. I start my seed on a shelf in the laundry room above the washer/dryer. It is not consistently warmer but then neither is nature consistent. I wonder if sometimes the variation in temperature could be healpful.

    Bookmark     November 27, 2008 at 1:03PM
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belleville_rose_gr

I have a newer furnace also with the chimney no longer needed due to cooler air generated. I have no issues with my seed starting. I place flats in a heated room in my basement with good germination results.

    Bookmark     November 28, 2008 at 8:41AM
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genoprizebull(6 Akron NY)

check out wintersowing here or 'wintersown.org'

    Bookmark     November 26, 2008 at 9:12PM
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natalie4b(7b GA)

Great! I am so glad it's not too late - will sow them this weekend.
Thank you both Morz8 and Genoprizebull.
Happy Thanksgiving weekend!
~Natalie

    Bookmark     November 28, 2008 at 8:16AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

When you graft onto a seedling the seedling is juvenile but the scion is from a mature tree and has the maturity needed to produce flowering/fruiting buds. The number of years a tree remains juvenile depends both on the species and how well it is grown. A tree grown without root competition or compaction problems will fruit earlier. Many university tests have been made as well as those from fruit grower societies. Al

    Bookmark     November 25, 2008 at 10:45AM
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mechele211(TN 6b)

Thanks for the explanation. Good info.

    Bookmark     November 26, 2008 at 12:09AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Pinus parviflora , Japanese White Pine , sow 3 months moist cold @ 39F, move to 70F for germination.

Pinus thunbergii, Japanese Black Pine, sow 2-3 months moist cold, move to 70F for germination. Very fresh seeds may germinate quickly.

Acer buergerianum , Trident Maple , sow moist cold @ 39F for germination in 6 to 8 weeks - watch these, they may germinate at cool temperatures before you remember to bring them out to warm

Taxodium distichum, Bald Cypress, pour very hot water over seeds (just short of boiling) to help remove resin coating prohibiting water from breaching the seed. Moist cold 39F 60 days, then bring to warm.

All of these could be sown and placed outdoors now in your zone and exposed to a range of temperatures for Spring germination.

    Bookmark     November 21, 2008 at 8:02PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Be sure to check out the Tree Forum here too. They have a bunch of great FAQ's and discussion tips there about growing many different varieties from seed.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Tree Forum - Growing from Seed

    Bookmark     November 23, 2008 at 11:22PM
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