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rjinga

that last link is very cool, and helpful. I'll definitely book mark that one. Thanks for sharing it.

    Bookmark     November 18, 2008 at 9:08AM
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I lOVE that site. Jjust need to give fair warning to those on dial-up. Its an extremely heavy site.

    Bookmark     November 19, 2008 at 8:55PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

I haven't grown it, but it looks like the approach is the same as for other perennial types...

Moist cold 3 - 4 weeks, move to 70ish for germination in additional 30 - 90 days. If the seeds are fresh the initial chill may not be necessary, but it certainly doesn't hurt and may improve germination percentage

    Bookmark     November 19, 2008 at 4:26PM
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lindajrogers

my berries are green will they change colors to white and when do I harvest them?

    Bookmark     November 3, 2008 at 8:34PM
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threas(z7 PA)

My berries have green for months.some have dried & turned tan. There is still moisture inside. When is the best time to harvest?

Theresa

    Bookmark     November 19, 2008 at 6:48AM
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taxonomist(7b VA)

To most of the world, Mountain Laurel refers to Kalmia latifolia Linne. The plant is assigned to the Heath family or Ericaceae. The use of a common or local name as You have done exhibits the complete futility of such a name. When Kalmia is used, anyone, anywhere in the world will completely understand what You are trying to convey.

    Bookmark     November 12, 2008 at 7:38PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

This is out of"How to grow Native Plants" by Jill Nokes. GREAT BOOK!!! for those who like texas natives. Seeds may be scarified with a knife or file. Or soak them in concentrated sulfuric acid for 30-90 minutes Pre treated seeds will germinate in 2-3 weeks once the soil has warmed The medium should be extremely well draining and drenched with fungicide. Use a deep pot to germinate in , not a flat. Grow in shade for the first year before you put it out in the blazing sun. They will grow in the shade and partial shade but they bloom better the more sun they get. There is a silver leafed variety

To the out of state person who was worried about cold hardiness. They do Zone 8. Central Tx gets into the teens pretty much every winter for a brief period. Normally one or two nights and then it warms up in the day. We do not stay below freezing but rarely during the winter. Last year we had a 3 days of continuous below freezing wet weather. YUCK. We have trees all over town and we have trees indigenous to our hills. On the map , I think thast we are the furthest north that the natural habitat goes. You see them growing in the wild on limestone hills with perfect drainage. It might be a thing of moisture and cold combined that does them in. Cold and wet might be the bugger and that is why they grow in west Texas but not in Texarcana.

I have used a stationary belt sander to nick my seeds and I have put them out a bit before the soil warms totally. I find the rot problems increases as the weather warms. Rot is the problem. I have many seeds that have rot in the pot before germinating.

    Bookmark     November 17, 2008 at 4:16PM
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yiorges-z5il

Soak seed in water for 12 hours THEN do not cover the seed soil temp 75-80F taking 14-30 days to germinate.

    Bookmark     November 17, 2008 at 2:35PM
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nikkineel(GA 8/7b)

Thanks for the follow ups. I went ahead and planted some arugula and some dianthus. I know the dianthus is iffy but I started it inside. Seems like I planted some outside pretty late last year.
Thanks for the tips on the flowers. I have some daylily seed that I can plant. Any other specifics?
I am planning to "wintersow" some things too. I just can't wait and wanted to get started:) Nikki

    Bookmark     November 14, 2008 at 7:13PM
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sheltieche

Take dianthus outside, it is tough cookie and will do fine, put in unheated garage or make shift cold frame- box from few bags of leaves with clear plastic on top. Diascia and snaps will do great if started now. So are multiple primulas.
I hav started tons of plants already and will take them into sunroom porch in Feb- those I started perennials I want to have lrgish side but the spring. Of course, winterswing seeds are going separately, those I do not mind being tiny seedlings in the spring.

    Bookmark     November 15, 2008 at 3:31PM
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rbrady(5/Eastern Ia)

I had success with the folowing:

Caltha palustris Marsh Marigold-fresh seed-warm strat Oct 30 for approx 60 days then wintersowed on Jan 1. germination occured in May.

Gentiana andrewsii and flavida-wintersowed (cold strat) on surface (need light) bottom watered germination occured in late May.

Veronicastrum virginicum- wintersowed in Jan on surface (need light) bottom watered as needed germination occured in late May.

I sowed Cimifuga last winter-no germination yet-I read that it may need alternating warm cold warm cycles or 1 full year.

Rhonda

    Bookmark     November 15, 2008 at 2:18PM
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sheltieche

Dandy
there is one product you might want to try- GA-3/ read more on JL Hudson seedsman website.
If you are experienced, it is most likely seeds. Caltha requires fresh seeds and cold strat and just right amount of moisture, would not worry about this one and buy a plant instead. Aconitums require fresh seed and warm cold warm. If the seed is dry, you might or might not get lucky. I say that Gardens North have good variety of aconitums and they send them moist preserved, or try a personal trade with someone who grows them.
Aquilegia germinates like a charm with GA-3, otherwise you need cold strat, perfect for winter sowing/ check with winter sowing forum FAQ for details/
Clematis herbaceous like recta purpurea good for WS, will take several and I mean several months to germinate.
Genitana does like a charm with GA-3 otherwise winter sowing. Make sure do not water or drip from overhead as seed is tiny.
Astilboides/ rodersia, seed is tiny, warm germinator- see above- do not water from overhead. That is mostly depends on the seeds.
Have not done much cims but found babies in the garden so they need to be winter sown.
Thalictrums are notoriously hard to germinate, needlong cold strat or GA-3 will improve germination dramatically.
Stylophorum diphyllum reseeds like a weed in my garden, cold strat will do it any time.
This is all from my personal experience and I have done it multiple times. If you need more seeds to try I will be happy to send your way, check my trade list. I have cimic simplex? ramosa? seeds are ready and Jack Compton just finished bloom.

    Bookmark     November 15, 2008 at 3:25PM
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yiorges-z5il

Use pure peat-moss, no fertilizer & high humidity..... do not cover the seed soil temp 55-65F & takes 14-60 days to germinate.

    Bookmark     November 14, 2008 at 4:43PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Aconitum - Lots of people have trouble with these from commercial seed, Clothier notes seeds are short viable. A warm moist period preceding cold moist seems to help.

Aquilegia vulgaris - can have erratic germination and may take several months at 40F

Rodgersia - don't cover seed, may take 14 - 60 days at 60F
Caltha - 'Marsh marigold' - I direct sow fresh seed in Fall
Gentiana asclepiadea and seems recommended for most - warm, cold, cool germinator, barely cover seed if at all

Stylophorum diphyllum - Sow 41F, germination irregular, often several months - which makes it an easy self sower here with our mild wet Fall and Winter into Spring

    Bookmark     November 13, 2008 at 3:53PM
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celtic_wyndes_farm(5)

If you plant the seeds in cow pots, it would be better for the plant. The plant would not get "root-bound" like in peat pots, nor do you have to tear the peat pot as commenly done. I think Cow Pots is a much better pot all around. So much so, I started selling them and I agree with alot of people that they are pricey, but that are all around a better product than peat. These are my prices. I can deliver for free with in the Columbia & Hallsville Missouri surrounding area.
My prices:
(12) 3" pots $4.80 (tax & shipping not included)
(12) 4" pots $6.00 (tax & shipping not included)
(700)3" pots $252 (tax & shipping not included)
(300)4" pots $135 (tax & shipping not included)
Call for larger orders. I am the cheapest prices you will find. If not, Please let me know.

    Bookmark     November 11, 2008 at 11:54PM
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newbie_in_nj(6b E/Central NJ)

I've just been looking at them online and came here to see if anyone else already posted thread.

Cheapest price found is 12/$8.49 (plus shipping) for 4" which is expensive even when starting just a couple hundred seedlings...mostly flowers.

My goal is to avoid transplant shock but I'm winter sowing a number of things outdoors and wasn't sure if they'd hold up to winter weather even though placed in draining Sterlite containers (already have) with clear sheeting domed on top.

Also considered them for starting more select items under lights as needed to get some things to good size and bloom for late spring/early summer.

They are attractive option. Never used peat pots. Was wondering if newspaper pots achieved same avoidance of transplant shock but assumed they'd be gloppy mess in winter sown containers by Spring. Assume roots can penetrate thawed newspaper pots as well as Cow Pots but without built-in nutrient benefits.

Only my second year growing from seed and I still don't have a "system" set in my mind and plans. Takes time and experience to get this process down!

Looks like Cow Pots would be good option for reducing transplant shock if one can afford them in quantities larger than 12 but less than 300-700. Assume leftovers can be stored from one year to next but this time of year seeds and soilless starting mix as well as fall conditioning items have already added up cost wise. That, and my father is already threatening to trash all the supplies I already have spread around basement, garage, back deck/patio and piles of decomposing leaves/grass.

I still have to buy a better light set up for more coverage area/better control as seedlings got leggy using Dad's shop light last winter/early spring and didn't have enough room for all seedlings needing early start to bloom first year. Yes, I know I should build my own light set up but not mechanically or electrically inclinded in the least.

Cow Pot website says they're available at local Whole Foods markets but presume they're as comparatively expensive as most of their items.

    Bookmark     November 12, 2008 at 6:08AM
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yiorges-z5il

Store seed at 40F for 4 weeks then lightly cover soil temperature 65-70F & takes 14-21 days to germinate

    Bookmark     November 11, 2008 at 4:34PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Have you checked out the Herb seed trading forum here? I linked it below. Otherwise, some nurseries may still have some seed stock they didn't return. Most of the big box stores return their seed by mid-summer. Don't know who your usual sources are but many of the more common online suppliers still offer herb seeds. Check Johnnys Seeds not to mention Henry Fields, Totally Tomatoes, Thompson-Morgan, just to name a few.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Herb Seed trading forum

    Bookmark     November 9, 2008 at 10:22PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

I think you'll find you have better germination with your columbine seeds if you do give them a period of moist cold first...Easy enough to do if you put them in a tiny zip lock with a tsp or so of moist sterile sand or moist sterile vermiculite and place that in your refrigerator (3-4 weeks) - then sow the entire contents of the bag if you wish and proceed indoors with lights as you had planned.

After a year, your seeds should still be viable but rough rule of thumb is - the older the seed the more likely they may benefit from stratifying, not the other way around. Exceptions of course, but as far as I know columbine/aquilegia isn't one of them.

    Bookmark     November 10, 2008 at 10:29PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Here is a link to the FAQ: How to grow tomatoes from seed from over on the Tomato forum. Also check out the many FAQ's here (linked below) on how to get started growing from seed.

They will provide all the basics. ;)

Then, if you want to grow it indoors you will need a special full spectrum light called halide and there is lots of info on them on the Growing Under Lights forum here at GW. You can grow the tomato plant but to get blooms and fruit, the special full-spectrum (like sunlight) is needed.

Your container sounds very small to me and will only work for the very tiny varieties of tomatoes like Micro-Tom etc. Regular cherry tomato plants are what are called "indeterminates" and grow 6-8 feet tall and 3-4 feet wide so stick with the small container varieties.

Good luck.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: FAQ: How to get started

    Bookmark     November 9, 2008 at 10:36PM
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engk916

i have a tiny space in my basement where i can start my seedlings. i'll try the flourescent lights, but i have a question on how to keep the seeds warm. do i start the seeds on top of the fridge and THEN move them under the lights? i wanted to try growing transplants in soil blocks (figured it was worth a shot), so i'm not sure how warm i;m supposed to make the soil.

    Bookmark     November 3, 2008 at 7:30PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Can't help but note that no one has linked you to the many FAQs here on how to grow from seed. I linked them below and they are well worth your review as they are filled with detailed info.

You will also find a step-by-step FAQ with photos on how to grow tomatoes from seed over on the Growing Tomatoes forum if you are interested.

Good luck.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: How to Grow from Seed FAQs

    Bookmark     November 7, 2008 at 11:16PM
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