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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Yes!!!!!!

    Bookmark     October 8, 2008 at 7:51AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

There is no one answer. But: Mutation, natural crossing, contamination, and in vegetatively propagated materials disease, cause a "running out" of cultivars.

    Bookmark     October 7, 2008 at 8:13AM
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origami_master(5b)

George is correct, there is no one answer. I'm assuming that when you say seedling you're growing from seed. Seeds are a product of sexual reproduction (sperm+egg, pollen+egg) and whenever sexual production occurs, the results (flowers) of the seedlings will not be known, because of the complicated genetics involved (allels crossing over, mutations/errors in meiosis, etc.) There are seeds that 'come true' meaning they look like their parents, but I am willing to say there are small, minor differences on a molecular level.

Some cultivar seedlings may revert back to their 'generic' forms. I'm not sure on this on a scientific level, but I have found that variegated plant or something 'golden' (like pothos) will revert to a pure green form if it doesn't receive enough light. Albino seedlings (pure white seedlings) will not survive because they lack chlorophyll and therefore cannot make their own food.

    Bookmark     October 7, 2008 at 8:35PM
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wiley0(4a)

Good question. I have been gathering a bunch of seedheads of various plants. I want to make an area on my boulevard that is about 10'X20' and was a former tulip bed. Many of the tulips will come up next spring but after they flower I want a wild flower type garden there.

I have four boxes of wildflower seeds from last year plus what I have and will gather. The ground is bare and weed free, tilled and ready to scatter seeds. Will most of them do ok if I just scatter the seeds and rake them in after our first hard frost?

I'm in zone 4 and temps now are 40's at night and 50-65 during the day for another week or so, then we should get some nights of below 32.

    Bookmark     October 7, 2008 at 5:46PM
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wiley0(4a)

I went to FAQ's and found a lot of answers. Duh! I will be winter sowing other varieties and some veggie seeds. Don't know if I want to mess with gro lights etc again. It was fun but a lot of work/time.

    Bookmark     October 7, 2008 at 6:03PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

No survival zone 5. Cuttings posible BUT must have place to keep alive duting winter. Seed open flower dead afte has hada chance to DRY . would also check for seed sources this winter

    Bookmark     September 27, 2008 at 4:32PM
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suewhogh(z5 vt)

Hi george,
I tried to take cutting but failed. I have the room inside to overwinter but no luck. Thanks

    Bookmark     October 7, 2008 at 5:31PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

hold off till after the first killing frost then mulch. also insure the area remains DAMP till spring.

    Bookmark     October 7, 2008 at 7:59AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Is it a heated greenhouse? The best question you could ask is "can I grow ___________ in a heated/non heated greenhouse in zone 8?"

    Bookmark     September 27, 2008 at 4:38PM
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lavernialadybug(8B)

I take everything into my greenhouse in the fall - we have a propane heater my hubby cranks up when it's supposed to freeze and haven't lost anything yet (10 years). I've already taken my cutting from the hibiscus, bouganvillas and everything else possible and have them ready to put in the greenhouse for winter. We had tomatoes in 10 gallong planters last year and had tomatoes until January. Try anything, but don't start your spring seeds too early or they will be skinny and not thrive. Good luck.

    Bookmark     October 6, 2008 at 5:19PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

seed REQUIRE a cold treatment (40F) for 4 weeks. lightly cvover the seed soil temperature 65-70 & takes 14-28 days to germinate.
darkness other than lightly covering the seed is NOT needed.

    Bookmark     October 5, 2008 at 10:04AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

You are correct But for much more information/tips go to the forum for "winter Sowing"

    Bookmark     October 4, 2008 at 8:20AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

You could start lavender seed now outside in zone 10, where it should still be warm enough to germinate within 30 days. You will need to be sure to keep the seed bed damp yourself if the rainy season has not started. Lavender seed will germinate without stratification and will grow right through the winter where you live. Al

    Bookmark     October 3, 2008 at 9:11AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Take tip cuttings of firm new growth. apply 0.1% IBA (Rooting hormone) stick in well drained soil & mist takes 25-80 days to root.
This time of the year many of the seed pods should be mature & may be dried in a paper bag... be sure seed pods are full & plump.
The plant often self seeds so look around the base of the plant for seedlings

    Bookmark     September 29, 2008 at 9:11AM
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Chemocurl zn5b/6a Indiana(zone 5/6)

My experience has been that ROS often do not come true from saved seed.

I have Bluebird and it has reseeded and the resulting babies have been a variety of colors.

I'd say the only 'sure' way of getting the exact variety would be starting them from cuttings.

Sue

    Bookmark     September 30, 2008 at 11:05AM
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najoba(8b)

I don't know if this will be of any help. I plant my daylily seeds in a mixture of 2 parts of peat moss, 1 of vermiculite and 1 of perlite. I add water and soak it overnight before filling the cups. I buy the big bale of peat moss, so it cuts down on the cost. I punch holes in the bottoms and around the bottom edge of styrofoam cups, and fill them with the mix. (16 oz plastic drink cups will do, too.) I set them in aluminum foil roasting pans, and fill the pans with water. Once the seeds get their second set of leaves, I start adding one scoop of Schultz's Expert Plant Food to a gallon of water, and keep them in that solution until I am ready to transplant them. It is easy to slide out the plants, "soil" and all when ready to transplant.

I just recently bought a mini green house, which is actually 4 shelves, with a zippered plastic cover that fits over it. It was only $30. It holds the pans of cups perfectly.

You could also get some inexpensive plastic storage bins at Wal-Mart, drill holes in the bottom and set them in the aluminum foil pans. Just a few ideas for you.

Don't try and move the pans if they are full of water and cups, as they will bend on you. I remove the cups, throw out the water every few days, put the cups back in and refill with fresh water.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2008 at 2:52AM
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editornj(7 Coastal NJ)

Thanks for the tip!

Do you HAVE to transplant? Or can you just stick the paper pot in the ground, eventually?

Does the last flap of the paper cup have to be secured? Setting it upright and putting soil in isn't enough to keep the flap closed?

Thanks!

    Bookmark     September 29, 2008 at 8:23AM
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tumblingtomatoes

Haven't given up yet, am trying again, wanna get it right!
I used a seed starting mix, covered just a bit over the seed as the pkg said. Waited three weeks? Shouldn't I see something happen by now, other flowers & veggies, sweet basil all came up & are fine. Any suggestions? Thanks!

    Bookmark     September 28, 2008 at 1:51PM
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jerome69(6)

i heard and tried (the paper towel method of starting seeds), and it worked like magic.i use it for the seeds that i have problems with including purple coneflowers and gaillardia.cuts down on germination time.i then take the sprouted seeds and then put them in pots. let me know how you make out.

    Bookmark     September 29, 2008 at 6:37AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

will wish to pot up SO.....you can you build a simple cold frame or heavely mulch or grow in windoe. or.......

    Bookmark     September 27, 2008 at 4:45PM
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Chemocurl zn5b/6a Indiana(zone 5/6)

I would probably plant them out, where they might get some protection if you have or know of a location. I would then mulch heavily later.

Here is a thread that discusses seeds dropping and germinating naturally. Tell me about winter aconite Evidently little shallowly naturally planted seedling make it just fine in nature. I'd get them planted out asap...not very deep, and then sometime b4 the ground freezes, add the mulch.

Sue...wishing you well...love aconites!

    Bookmark     September 28, 2008 at 1:20PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Frost will hurt plants collect seed just before "killing frost" & store in cool dry,dark location. If talking about seedlings then protect with mulch or dig up & store cool,dry.dark location afove freezing.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2008 at 4:34PM
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tumblingtomatoes

Hey, I have tried a couple times to get my seed to sprout & no luck, tell me the trick!

    Bookmark     September 26, 2008 at 3:03PM
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    Bookmark     September 26, 2008 at 7:02PM
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