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arjo_reich

man, what a time to stumble on this thread. I've gotten the majority of my seeds from burpee this year and I've been wondering WTF there hasn't been any germination from them. The two random packs of seeds I picked up from walmart that were Walmart branded are already up and jumping (mesclun & radishes) and everything else is just sitting there dead.

The worst part is that it takes FOREVER+++ to make those paper pots so I'll be most pissed that I wasted all the work on the pots than I would be on the wasted $$ from the bum seeds.

Crappola.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2008 at 3:54PM
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ccaggiano

I purchased the majority of my veggies from Burpee. My germination was quite successful with the exception of my eggplants and peppers. I do know that these take a long time so I am still hoping!!

This is my first year starting from seed and have tried several different methods.

I found the best to be the coffee filter/baggie method. I liked that I could check every couple of days to see what was going on. I am a control freak and this suited my anal-ness the best.

Good luck!!!

    Bookmark     April 15, 2008 at 12:30AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Pull back the mulch when direct sowing or transplanting small seedlings, push it back into place when your young plants have gained some size and vigor.

One of the reasons for mulching is to cover and keep weed seeds from germinating, it will do the same for your ornamental/desireable seeds - so move it out of the way temporarily.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2008 at 10:41PM
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gardeninprogress

Thanks all for the advice!

Just to let you know. . . . I thought I'd post here wondering if someone had some 'creative solutions'. I've not considered clover ~ however, will check into this.

I'm considering even a durable ground cover. I'm not sure grass is optimal for this area.

Also ~ 3 + 2 dogs is ALOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC!!!! Does the clover hold up?

    Bookmark     April 14, 2008 at 1:01PM
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tuscanseed(7)

Had this scenario years ago with the dogs, mud, and grass graveyard. What I ended up doing was to mulch the entire yard area (this was an urban yard) with 2 inches of pine bark. I had my garden strips along the side of the yard. Dogs would poo in the mulch, easy pickup. Just wash the mulch down with a hose, smells decent with pine or cedar bark, replenish with a bag or two evey few weeks. It saved my sanity, kitchen floor and rugs.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2008 at 10:03PM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

I usually have to pull up excess marigolds that have fallen from the plant last fall and been outside all winter.

Sometimes a freeze gets them first. I have a bunch of week old marigolds that just came up on their own outside that got frozen last night. More will probably come up in a few days. They are tough.

    Bookmark     April 11, 2008 at 1:37PM
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edburke13(7)

Thanks buddies.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2008 at 4:45PM
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mamafish_68(5)

I'm using the pellets too, my very first time to do so!
My question is, I've started an assortment of seeds, my problem is with the sunflowers that have popped up, their so top heavy they've fallen over, when I go to a peat/plastic pot, do I pay special attention to the base of the sunflower so it doesnt rot because new dirt is too high?

    Bookmark     April 11, 2008 at 9:49AM
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ianna(Z5b)

mamafish, I suggest using peatpots because you can simply plant the entire thing in your garden without disturbing the roots. Re your question, first put a layer of soilless mix to the bottom of the pot and then put your peat pellet on top leaving the base of the plant at near the rim of the pot.

Ianna

    Bookmark     April 14, 2008 at 11:57AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

No specific clue given... so... is growing on temp betwen 60-70F? adequate water not over or under watering?
extra fertilizer/trace minerals/pH adjustment not usually required.
Is the fact that they are "laying over" pose any problem other than it appearance?

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 3:27PM
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west9491(6)

soil is, yes.
they are growing indoors under grow lights, all of my other plants i started from seed are doing just fine.

no, i've noticed no other problems, i just wanted to make sure that they weren't on their way to the compost pile.

    Bookmark     April 13, 2008 at 10:32AM
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medontdo(8)

i love sowing in trays, but if ya have to use those peat thingi,s at least empty them into the trays, for some reason its worked better for me that way, now i just use stay green starter soil, works great!! and is cheaper than miracle grows. i love it!! i never knew about some of the things about dark germinataion til ponderosa lemons! LOL now i know they need the dark to germinate. mine never germinated, but once they were covered they did, the first ones i had forever never germ, but once cov. they did. ones i just got i covered inadvertantly right away and they germinated right off the bat!!! LOL its crazy about this stuff. just had to add this, dunno why :'))

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 9:01PM
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tomakers(SE MA Zone 5/6 or ?)

I have used Jiffy 7 pellets for many years with ZERO problems. I use the "greenhouse" with 25 pellets 5x5.
Soak them to expand, open up the mesh on top and plant.
As soon as I start getting germination I remove the clear top an put them under lights. I have always had very good germination results.
I can't say much about flowers, as I don't really normally start any, only vegetables, mostly tomatoes and peppers.
I transplant up to newspaper pots filled about 2/3 with Miracle Grow potting soil when they are ready.
Always water these from the bottom.
In the extremely unusual event I see mold or whatever I use a very dilute solution of hydrogen peroxide (3% dilulted 20:1) in a small sprayer.
The last 2 years I have also used a heat mat which speeds things up considerably. I have the cheap one (about $20) with no thermostat. It heats about 10-15 degrees above the ambient temperature.
JMO,
Tom

    Bookmark     April 13, 2008 at 1:05AM
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tommydee(7)

those pics were taken after about 5 weeks

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 7:04PM
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busylizzy(z5 PA)

The comos I saw pictured were zinnia seedings not cosmos on the link.
I direct sow cosmos they are up in out after last frost in 7 days

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 10:54PM
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karyn1(7a)

I bought one about 5 years ago and am really happy with it. It's great as long as you don't have rock hard soil. I had to get a more powerful tiller to make new beds in areas that haven't been turned in 30 years but the Mantis works very well in existing gardens or soil that's fairly loose. It will work on compacted earth but you have to go over the same area so many times.
Karyn

    Bookmark     April 10, 2008 at 3:02PM
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busylizzy(z5 PA)

Everyone I know that has one loves it, including one of the largest farmer in this area for their smaller home garden.
I still use my 25+ year Troy Bilt 2 cycle tiller made before the Mantis ones.

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 10:49PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Needs a soil temp (not air temp) of 68F must check this to know when to plant...... takes about 10 days to germinate & seed requires darkness to germinate (COVER seed)

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 3:38PM
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bunnyvac6000

Thanks, George. It's already getting pretty hot here and April and May are usually fairly dry in these parts so maybe it isn't the best time. Hate to put it off but I guess it would be best to wait till early next year to plant.

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 10:13PM
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jamjam

They can take up to three weeks. Do you have clear plastic wrap over the pot? That should warm it up a little.

If it helps, mine came up when I had practically given up on them :)

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 6:26PM
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allisonlwise(5)

Wow ... I'm such a blond. They are actually Helichrysum seeds. Not that it matters, because NOTHING is happening with them, LOL!

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 10:30AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

OK, Plan B, for helichrysum -

Surface sow, do not exclude light, @ 75ºF, grow on after germination @ 65ºF , germination in approx 7-14 days from sowing.

(On the surface, do not cover, you said you put them at their specified height/depth, the depth should be on top the sowing medium and just gently pressed in to make good soil contact, then mist to keep moist.)

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 11:13AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Sure looks like spider mites to me. But instead of the Murphy's mix (the oil/soap combo has been undermined lately by new research as ineffective - the oil and soap seem to work against each other) try the oil baking soda mix: 1 T light vegetable oil (not olive oil) and 1 tsp. baking soda in a gallon of water and shake well. be sure to get the soil and undersides of the leaves too.

The soil in your photos looks awfully wet too. did you just water? Try letting them dry out more between watering too. But keep in mind that the SM can travel - get the seedlings further away or they will just get re-infected.

Good luck. ;)

Dave

    Bookmark     April 11, 2008 at 10:21PM
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Elizabeth White

Thank you so much! I'll try an oil/soap/baking soda spray.

I hate spider mites!

Elizabeth

    Bookmark     April 12, 2008 at 9:43AM
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kms4me

They do need warmth and light for germination. Also, the seed life is very short--seeds more than 2 years old may no longer be viable.

    Bookmark     April 11, 2008 at 7:43PM
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jamjam

They need light? Wow, I wasn't aware of that. Would it help if I placed them under my lights? The seed is fresh; I just picked up a packet from West Coast Seeds; its a new offering for them.

    Bookmark     April 11, 2008 at 8:04PM
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