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dragonplant(7a)

I would love it if any of you who are sprouting sunrise would come back and title a post "sunrise seedling color" (so we can find it) and tell us what kind of flower you got when it blooms. I know it'll be awhile, but I'm very curious to see if it will be a sunrise, a paradoxa, a purple or an original.

    Bookmark     April 2, 2008 at 8:41AM
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wyndyacre(z6B SW Ont.)

How interesting that this thread has risen from the ashes one year since I originally posted it. :)

I can report that the lonely one "Sunrise" and "Fragrant White" seedlings did grow on into plants outdoors. The "Sunrise" did not bloom last summer so have high hopes for it this year. The "Fragrant White" did bloom quite well.

So this year I have some E. "White Swan" sowed from fresh commercial seed, that seems to be taking its sweet time germinating. Sowed on March 12th (in the greenhouse) and not one little green head yet.

    Bookmark     April 2, 2008 at 8:59PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

If you mean Persian blue aka breadseed poppy aka papaver somniferum from the spice aisles of grocery stores, yes they do germinate. The one year I sowed from a spice jar though, I found the bloom colors mixed, pale and not especially inspiring - I buy named seed if I'm going to sow annual poppies.

If you were looking for the true blue perennial poppy, meconopsis, you won't find it in edible spices.

    Bookmark     April 2, 2008 at 1:45PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

The herb name comes from the color of the seed NOT the flower.

    Bookmark     April 2, 2008 at 7:40PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Growing on temp 65F taking 15-18 weeks to produce a plant in a 4 inch pot. Ideal pH 5.4 to 6.2.....
As long as there is good air circulation watering from the top will not pose any more problems than produce by watering from the bottom.

    Bookmark     April 2, 2008 at 7:36PM
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allisonlwise(5)

I have the same problem! I've already got 3 lights up in our room, and I had to go buy another one today! I'm up to 6 sets of 72 count trays ... and once they get big enough to need their own pots, I'm just hoping the weather cooperates so I can get them outside!

I still have 10 packs of seeds I want to start!

Allison

    Bookmark     April 2, 2008 at 1:59PM
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rebaru(z5 QC)

this is so sad and funny, that we can talk about winter sowing in april! we have a pool going at work about when ALL the snow will be gone. i have some seedlings indoors - what if i can never plant them in the garden? i also have one flat that's been outside since early january. i can't see it now - maybe someday, when the snow melts. but yes, plant them out, if they don't need cold first, for which it is hopefully too late! (can you tell i'm fed up and want spring to come already???)

    Bookmark     April 2, 2008 at 6:52PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

You may have to ask a cow, or goat...one of the original plans for this was fodder.

But you won't find out in Kansas, it's banned there as in most states - I don't know of a responsible gardener in any climate who is attempting to grow it.

Here is a link that might be useful: Kansas Dept of Ag

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 11:42PM
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medontdo(8)

ya well they should add crab grass to that!!
i think that if you could be careful and control it and prune, then it'll be ok. but then i've been wrong befor!! but of course i could really tick off my irritating no good neighbors!! LOL maybe it'll block my view of them!! LOL :')) **hoping** LOL (onery, so very onery!!! LOL)

    Bookmark     April 2, 2008 at 12:18AM
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hatchjon

freshmangardener, "Their so small I cant imagine they actually grow into plants!"

It never gets old :)

Here is a link that might be useful: My Blog: The Wicked Good Garden

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 11:15PM
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medontdo(8)

yes!! i read the same thing!! in the jerry baker book, but i can never keep the stuff around long enough to try it!! LOL them ol kiddo's!! LOL i sooo want to try it, but you have to use the regular not the sugar free, its the sugar that feeds the seedlings.

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 11:21PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

either.... if dry the soak in water for 24 hours.... any way do NOT cover the seed soil temp 75F taking 42-56 days to germinate....... AS soon as the root appeas transplant..... growing on temp 65-75F taking 24-32 weeks to produce a 4" pot plant.

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 9:19PM
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buck1173

carolyn, thanks... neat product!

    Bookmark     March 31, 2008 at 4:18PM
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buck1173

well, my squashes were pushing up the roof of the baby greenhouse, so I decided to repot... from the way they were smashed on the roof, seemed like the only reasonable thing to do as I'm a ways from planting out...

well.... HOLY ROOT SYSTEM!!!! I could not believe it, I thought the green stuff above ground was large at 4-5", the roots were pushing 10" on some of them! It looked like hairy spaghetti!

Did my best not to touch or disturb the roots in any way, hope I didn't stress them too much.

wish me luck.

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 6:28PM
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maneec

I used the cable box with the baggie method. Nice and toasty even when the unit is not actively powered on. Beans started in three days.

    Bookmark     March 30, 2008 at 10:35AM
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khandjo(Z9 Nw Orl)

What is the baggie method? I am game to try anything since I am new to all of it!

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 6:03PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Hi Allison - You can either transplant them now with care or sacrifice a few from each cell - snip them at the soil line with the scissors - then let the rest continue to grow as is till they are large enough to transplant easily. Either way you will likely lose a few but most will do fine. Your choice.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 4:08PM
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stage_rat(5--Indiana Riviera)

Like Thistle wrote, just transplant the tomatoes deep, (all the way up to the first set of true leaves) and they should be fine. Keep the lights just a couple of inches above the plants (higher if they seem to crisp the leaves). Isn't it awful when someone says something with complete assurance, at it messes you up big-time? Sometimes I've read something in several places, and thought it must be true (different sources, right?) and it turned out to be a BAD idea for me to try.

Ground cherries are going to need the same amount of light. Indoor fluorescent light is nothin' compared to the sun, I think even shade perennials grown indoors can have the same amount of light (not sure though), but ground cherries are sun-loving annuals, so give them as much light as the toms. Most people keep fluorescents on 16-24 hours a day.

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 1:47AM
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jamjam

Thanks stage rat and thistle. I've had the lights on for hours, and the tomato stems are so much thicker! They're way healthier overall :)

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 3:36PM
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daryljurassic(OHIO 6a)

They don't look too leggy to me. I would recommend using a fan to strengthen up the stems if that is a concern. Just a slight breeze should help. The deep planting will do the trick in the end though... Just curious, How do you like your pots? I have never used those before. I assume you plant the pot in the ground as well? I have been using new 12oz. stryofoam coffee cups. Poke a hole in the bottom, easy to label...Not very eco though...

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 11:38AM
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bingster

daryl,

Bought both 2x3 and 4x4 peat pots in bulk. Think they cost me about 6 cents each. Like them just fine. Some roots do poke through the sides but I cut the pots off the seedlings before putting in the ground.

cheers

bing

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 3:10PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Your phlox is a warm, cold, cool germinator -

Phlox paniculata , Sow at 64-71ºF for 2-4 weeks, move to 39ºF for 4-6 weeks, move to 41-53ºF for germination

If it's still cool outside there at night, move them outdoors after 2 - 4 weeks indoors and let mother nature take over, or put the pot in your refrigerator depending on your climate.

Here is a link that might be useful: Phlox paniculate seed here

    Bookmark     March 31, 2008 at 8:07PM
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rocklandguyZ8,SC

Very interesting morz8, Thanks! Seems like it would just be easier to sow and mark the spots outside, then transplant later. I have some marked outside from last fall. It will be interesting to see what happens! The link you sent is pretty useful. I've also been trying lily seeds, sowing them outside in the fall for years, and nothing happens - (don't know what kind they are). There must be a trick for them also. Oh well, thanks for your help! Paul

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 11:10AM
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tuscanseed(7)

Neat idea, although I've never tried it. This would be helpful under the propagation forum, too. I'm at the other end of the spectrum in that I start too many tomatoes by seed and end up giving most away. I look at it as community enrichment and good will towards others. Thanks for sharing the tip.

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 10:31AM
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jenniferemily

No, I have no outdoor place that's mine. I thought of taking the plants to the park with my kids for a few hours but I am worried the kids will destroy them.

At what point do I introduce the fan?

So you think it is best if I plant them right away when I get to my house and not let them harden off for at least a few days? I am going to have soaker hoses on timers so they will get watered while I am away.

Thanks!

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 8:24AM
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tuscanseed(7)

My hardening process takes about 2 weeks but I've hurried before in 5 days, one year I really didn't even harden off. I assume that your weekend garden is in the same zone? Some suggestions would be to wean your artifical light time over the seedlings by a few hours, open your windows near the seedlings, let in some natural sunlight while you're in NYC prior to your 4-day visit, if possible. Also, run the fan when your seedlings are growing now, just for good health and prevention of fungal issues.
When you get to your house, you can plant the seedlings because we're talking about May in the northeast and not June in the southern USA. Someone posted about using a laundry basket to shield seedlings, so if you plant your seedlings, is it possible to have some weighted down cheap laundry baskets over them for a week until you return the following weekend? The sun would still get through but in a filtered way, as long as you have the water covered with soaker hoses. Another sun shield would be dead branches, evergreen branches, and tented up sticks around your seedlings. One year, I had no choice but to plant seedlings immediately without hardening them off and I used dead branches from trees to shield the sun and wind. I removed the branches in about a week and all the seedlings were fine. Good luck :)

    Bookmark     April 1, 2008 at 10:18AM
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