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Scott Schluter

This year I have done from your list so far broccoli, tomatoes and basil. All three sprouted withing 2-3 days sitting near my woodstove. I put them in soilless mix at day 4-6 in all cases. I can't advise on the others in your list.

Are you looking closely at the seeds? Open up a filter and check them out. The basil especially was hard to see germination when it first started.

Are you sure your seeds are viable?

Just thoughts, I too am a noob on the filter method but I've had great luck so far....too much luck, I've got far too many tomatoes.

    Bookmark     March 20, 2008 at 6:25AM
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dirtbert(z4)

The tomatoes, peppers and eggplant could take a good 2-3 weeks to germinate. I started my tomatoes and peppers on a heat mat and saw germination of the tomatoes in less than a week. The peppers were a little slower and generally took 3 weeks...a few straglers are still sprouting now almost 4 weeks later.
I also just started eggplant on heat mat at 85 and from what I read they will likely take 3 weeks to germinate. I've never had much luck with them but never tried them with the heat mat this warm so maybe that was the problem. The few times they have germinated for me they did take quite a long time (at least 4 weeks).
I'm waiting on my broccoli right now (only been a couple of days) but I generally give them all at least a couple of weeks before I get too worried about them :)

I hope that helps :)

    Bookmark     March 20, 2008 at 11:16PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

No personal experience with one of these, jamjam, so take this with a grain of salt, ok? From what I have read about them, I'd share your fears of too much heat and possible damage. Went through all the lighting systems offered in my greenhouse supplier catalogs and found no use of them. Maybe no one else thought of it yet. ;)

I suppose you could try it and keep a close eye on them - see how it goes - could be great!

Dave

    Bookmark     March 18, 2008 at 6:16PM
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jamjam

I've been doing some research, Dave, and I think this and grow lights are actually exactly the same thing. I'm going to contact the manufacturer and find out for sure, as nobody could give me a definitive answer. Some people in the PNW forum speculated that the lights might not be strong enough! But no one actually had one and had tried it. I'm pretty confident it will work now, but I'll try to find out for sure. BTW, the lights aren't "hot" to the touch at all when turned on, which I discovered the other day.

    Bookmark     March 20, 2008 at 9:44PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Hi happy - since you have a mixed bag of seeds go for 75 - it's a bit low for some and a bit high for others but should work. If you see the soil drying out too quickly then lower it to 70. Keep in mind that with a waterbed mat you have to have the temp probe stuck into a cup of soil too. I just fill a separate coffee cup with my damp potting mix and stick the temp probe in it and set it on the heat mat. It controls the heat cycle of the mat.

One other tip - sometimes setting the trays directly on the heat mat can melt and warp your tray. Small 1/4" spacers of wood under the corners help prevent that while still letting the soil heat.

Good luck! ;)

Dave

    Bookmark     March 20, 2008 at 9:13PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Looks good! ;) Yes you can transplant them deeper. And be sure to remove the netting from the pellets before transplanting or planting.

Good luck!

Dave

    Bookmark     March 19, 2008 at 6:37PM
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zengeos(5 Maine)

Thank you much for the depth, and more importantly, the tip on removing the netting. I did a web search on that and could find no info, not even on the Burpee web site!!!
I plan to transplant them Sunday....130 seedlings to transplant and another 150 to start ouch this is getting to be real work!!!
;)

Mark-

    Bookmark     March 19, 2008 at 11:18PM
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karyn1(7a)

I got 2 in a trade recently. I don't know which variety of Mesquite Tree they were but both germminated quickly and are growing well. I'll check back through my emails and see if I can find who I got them from. Maybe they can tell you where they got them.
Karyn

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 8:54PM
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karyn1(7a)

I've gone through my old emails and can't figure out who sent the mesquite seeds. Maybe the person who sent them will see this post.
Karyn

    Bookmark     March 19, 2008 at 8:36PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

Zinnias transplant from seedling pots to sale size pots readily with very slight check in growth. Starting in seed mix and transplanting to potting mix I find to be the best choice. Al

    Bookmark     March 19, 2008 at 9:21AM
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goblugal(7)

Here is a link to the breeders culture sheet for Zinnia Profusion. You should find all the info you need!

Here is a link that might be useful: Sakata Seed

    Bookmark     March 19, 2008 at 12:07PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

If they are growing "fuzz", zgarden, then my best guess is they are too wet as the fuzz is fungus growth. That would also explain the stunted growth. Are they getting enough light, enough air circulation (try a small fan)? Try drying them out, cut back on the watering, and improve the air flow and I'll bet they perk up. Good luck.

Dave

    Bookmark     March 18, 2008 at 6:09PM
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jamjam

Wow! Thanks, you guys, this was great. A lot of opinions and now I think I have a more thorough understanding of the concepts. I am glad that other new people found it of use, too :)

I am really excited because my heirloom tomatoes popped up today. And that was after just five days after planting. Zounds, as Dr Zed would say :) My cucumbers are still down under- they're kind of old seed that might have been heated out of viability, but we'll see. But this is so much fun that I want to try some more- if only my mail order seeds would make it across the border, already. I might have to try something from the garden centre in the meantime :)

I feel like a groovy Earth mother! Zowee..

    Bookmark     March 18, 2008 at 2:30AM
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kayhh

Groovy. Now that brings on some flashbacks....kay.

    Bookmark     March 18, 2008 at 5:11PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

lightly cover the seed soil temp 70F & takes 3-10 days to germinate.

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 5:01PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Thanks

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 2:55PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Great photos John. Good proof that compost works! ;) Thanks for posting them.

Dave

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 2:52PM
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Scott Schluter

I planted my broccoli, cauliflower, gooseberry, and tomato seeds once they germinated in the filters. I carefully plucked them from the filter and put them directly on moistened soil-less mix then covered lightly with more soil less mix. That then went under the lights. Plants popped up and are very happy.

HTH

Here is a link that might be useful: Here's some instructions with pictures

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 7:52AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

HTH covered it well - transplant as soon as they sprout (they won't live long on the filter) and use any soil-less mix you want.

If you want more info I have linked numerous "baggie method" discussions for you below. There is also a FAQ here on how to do it.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Baggie method discussions

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 2:50PM
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mehearty(So ME z5a)

Do not fertilize the morning glory or you'll have big, leafy monsters this summer.

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 6:48AM
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craftlady07(5b/6a)

Thanks mehearty!

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 1:39PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

There are 2 forums seed saving & exchange they will be able to help you.......

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 2:57PM
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Crazy_Gardener(Z2b AB Canada)

'Blue Spires' is a Cultivar, therefore starting from seed may not come true.

Gardens North does sell the species PEROVSKIA atriplicifolia.

Here is a link that might be useful: Gardens North

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 9:40AM
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medontdo(8)

i think i'd wait a little longer, i know the problem!! mine are 2 ft now!! and i'm going nuts with these babies!! LOL i for some reason didn't expect them to grow so fast!! LOL but we have 2 more snows coming so i can't put them out just yet and all my plants have taken over my kitchen and diningroom!! unexpectedly!! LOL

    Bookmark     March 14, 2008 at 6:44PM
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roxann(5 MI (the thumb))

When I planted my sweet peas I figured most of them would die because I never started them indoors before and never
had lights on them.I also figured I'd still have time to replant them if they did die.To my surprise,not a one died.Now the problem is getting them to survive once there outdoors.I think I'm going to take a chance and plant them outside in a couple days.Hey! It'll be a inexpensive learning experince.

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 9:47PM
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rachel_z6(7)

Probably too soon, but you could certainly move things up by at least a week this year. if it's really too crowded, experiment with the cool season flowers and veggies to see if you get tougher plants by hardening them off sooner. but keep a careful eye on temperatures. Personally, I'd rather fiddle with lights than schlep dozens of trays in and out every day :)

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 1:24PM
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growsveges(8)

Thanks Dave and Rachel, I feel better. I'll just stick to my current juggling and schlepping routine then :)
Dave, great tip on the mylar. I have one of those shiny emergency blankets laying around; I'll add it to the back and top shelf.
happy growing

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 5:47PM
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