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Scott Schluter

I planted my broccoli, cauliflower, gooseberry, and tomato seeds once they germinated in the filters. I carefully plucked them from the filter and put them directly on moistened soil-less mix then covered lightly with more soil less mix. That then went under the lights. Plants popped up and are very happy.

HTH

Here is a link that might be useful: Here's some instructions with pictures

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 7:52AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

HTH covered it well - transplant as soon as they sprout (they won't live long on the filter) and use any soil-less mix you want.

If you want more info I have linked numerous "baggie method" discussions for you below. There is also a FAQ here on how to do it.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Baggie method discussions

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 2:50PM
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mehearty(So ME z5a)

Do not fertilize the morning glory or you'll have big, leafy monsters this summer.

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 6:48AM
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craftlady07(5b/6a)

Thanks mehearty!

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 1:39PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

There are 2 forums seed saving & exchange they will be able to help you.......

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 2:57PM
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Crazy_Gardener(Z2b AB Canada)

'Blue Spires' is a Cultivar, therefore starting from seed may not come true.

Gardens North does sell the species PEROVSKIA atriplicifolia.

Here is a link that might be useful: Gardens North

    Bookmark     March 17, 2008 at 9:40AM
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medontdo(8)

i think i'd wait a little longer, i know the problem!! mine are 2 ft now!! and i'm going nuts with these babies!! LOL i for some reason didn't expect them to grow so fast!! LOL but we have 2 more snows coming so i can't put them out just yet and all my plants have taken over my kitchen and diningroom!! unexpectedly!! LOL

    Bookmark     March 14, 2008 at 6:44PM
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roxann(5 MI (the thumb))

When I planted my sweet peas I figured most of them would die because I never started them indoors before and never
had lights on them.I also figured I'd still have time to replant them if they did die.To my surprise,not a one died.Now the problem is getting them to survive once there outdoors.I think I'm going to take a chance and plant them outside in a couple days.Hey! It'll be a inexpensive learning experince.

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 9:47PM
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rachel_z6(7)

Probably too soon, but you could certainly move things up by at least a week this year. if it's really too crowded, experiment with the cool season flowers and veggies to see if you get tougher plants by hardening them off sooner. but keep a careful eye on temperatures. Personally, I'd rather fiddle with lights than schlep dozens of trays in and out every day :)

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 1:24PM
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growsveges(8)

Thanks Dave and Rachel, I feel better. I'll just stick to my current juggling and schlepping routine then :)
Dave, great tip on the mylar. I have one of those shiny emergency blankets laying around; I'll add it to the back and top shelf.
happy growing

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 5:47PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Thanks

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 2:54PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

They do look like a nice set-up. Too bad they are so expensive and only do 24 plants. Sounds like you good a really good deal on so many of them. ;)

Dave

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 3:14PM
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sagegrouse

Most of your commercial seed starting mediums contain slight traces of fertilizers especially ment to get seeds/seedlings off to a good start. To have a truly "organic" blend, you'll have to make it yourself. Here's a basic peat starting mix for you: 2 parts coconut coir or peat moss; 1 part vermiculite; 1 part perlite, 1 part dehydrated steer manure; and 1/5 part dolomite lime. The lime is used to raise the pH of the naturally acidic peat, also provides calcium and magnesium, Espoma brand of pelleted is excellant! To prepare the blend, start with the peat and dampen thoroughly. Add next ingredient, mix, dampen and blend again, continue til you have it all together in the amount you need. It is highly advisable to wear a mask when making the medium to avoid inhalation of dust(s) associated with perlite and lime (if a powdered form is used). Making your own will not be cheap: think you'll find costs of everything, overall, will be very close to purchasing something already made up.
If you want to try a commercial blend that contains micorise (helps in root formation), a 16 quart bag of Pro Mix Ultimate Seeding Mix can be gotten thru www.greenhousemegastore.com for $12.95 plus $5 s/h. This is the BEST I've used yet, and you can't find it everywhere! Item number is: SO-PM-USM so you can find it faster if you want to look at its contents.
Hope I've helped a bit...GOOD GROWING!

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 1:06PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Plain old Jiffy Mix has nothing but peat and vermiculite in it. Check out the previous discussion linked below - many tips in it. Plain old peat plus vermiculite or perlite is about as "organic" as you can get. ;)

But I'm surprised you couldn't find one online - Gardeners Supply, Gardens Alive, Parks, Gurney's, etc. all carry various types. metro Mix is organic as all it has added is a wetting agent.

Dave

Or just use homemade compost - many discussions here at GW about it (see link at top of the forum page called Peat vs. compost.

Here is a link that might be useful: Best seed starting mixes

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 1:16PM
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glacier1093

We have a little one foot tall avacado tree in a pot started the same way you started your's, from what I remember we left it in the water until it had some leaves and roots, the seed split but still clung on a for quite a while, but when we put it in the soil it was without the seed. So I think it's ok if the seed splits, just as long as you make sure the whole plant doesn't fall in the cup, and by the time the seed falls off completely hopefully it will be big enough to go into a pot. I'm no avacado tree growing expert but thats what we did.

Hope that helped?
Good luck to you : )

    Bookmark     March 16, 2008 at 1:00PM
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wyndyacre(z6B SW Ont.)

I have had 'Munstead' reseed gently a couple times in my garden. It certainly wasn't anything that would take over my garden and I was glad of the extra plants which I dug up and moved around or potted up for my spring plant sale.

The seedlings could have easily been disturbed by cultivation and killed if I had not wanted them.

    Bookmark     March 3, 2008 at 10:39AM
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mehearty(So ME z5a)

Started from seed 5 years ago and never reseeded itself in the garden. Incidently, it was real easy to start from seed, and the seedlings smelled devine!

    Bookmark     March 15, 2008 at 11:01PM
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jamjam

Dave, thank you. You've really helped me out! :)

    Bookmark     March 15, 2008 at 1:49AM
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bonebloodyidle

I had a glut of wallflowers germinate when light was excluded. I had them in my garage with the door closed when I lived in the UK. I have now returned home and tried to germinate wallflowers in my coldframe with zero per cent success. However I have had a very favorable result in germinating tomatoes, onions and peppers in my heated propagators on the ledge in my drawing room.

While the wallflowers I sowed did not succeed I did find a self sown wallflower in the gravel of my path which I transplanted to the bed. Just shows nature really does know best.

    Bookmark     March 15, 2008 at 10:45PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

you have stored the seed under ideal conditions & SHOULD germinate..... Seed take 60-90 days to germinate so.......

    Bookmark     March 15, 2008 at 3:24PM
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seamstress

Wow! 60-90 days for tulip seed? Holy cow.

Thanks for the reply.

    Bookmark     March 15, 2008 at 7:19PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

. The leaning is normal turn flat 90 dregrees every other day. a second light will help also move near a window with good light. all plants will get leggy if grown in poor light.

    Bookmark     March 15, 2008 at 3:29PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

mehearty - Leave the heat on constantly until germination takes place. Breaking the heat cycle slows or stalls the germination process.

Dave

    Bookmark     March 15, 2008 at 10:32AM
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mehearty(So ME z5a)

Thank you Dave =)

    Bookmark     March 15, 2008 at 12:33PM
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medontdo(8)

ya, i let my kiddo's do their gardening, they have started thiers in them 72 cell packs i got at dollar general for 350, and they watch them. and water them. its important, i tell them its their job to take care of them!! they do a good job! and i remind them to be careful of the "babie plants". LOL they love it! and tabor helps teach talla how to take care of them. he's 12 and she's 5. :')) don't give up!!!

    Bookmark     March 14, 2008 at 9:56PM
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cactus184

Good response,Kay.....H. Thank you Cactus Pat.

    Bookmark     March 14, 2008 at 10:29PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Hi misty - have you reviewed all the FAQ's here? Linked at the top of the front page. They cover most of the basic info needed.

As to when to transplant? It depends on how crowded it is in your starting containers. If crowded, transplant some now with lots of care. Handle the leaves only not the stems. Are the stems on anything real long and leggy? If so they need to be transplanted deeply to just below the bottom leaves now.

The rest can wait until they develop their first true leaves. Then transplant them to new containers and either use a mix with fertilizer already in it or start feeding them a mild 1/4 strength solution of any good liquid balanced fertilizer.

Enjoy your plants.;)

dave

    Bookmark     March 14, 2008 at 8:01PM
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