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georgez5il(z5 IL)

There are two other forums where you may have better luck "seed saving" and "Seed Exchange"

    Bookmark     December 29, 2007 at 7:13PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

There are two other forums "seed saving" and "seed Exchange" where you may have better luck.

    Bookmark     December 29, 2007 at 7:11PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

gardenin, the Scarecrow motion activated sprayer works great on deer, crows, dogs, cats, herons...and I suspect turkey but I can't tell you that from experience, the only wild turkeys around here were re-introduced a few years ago and they don't seem to have really established yet. It needs to be connected to a water source (hose) so can't be used in freezing weather.

Flash tape and bird netting are two things that are recommended for deterring them, but remember they roost in trees - if you are trying to protect a woodland planting you might have to get creative with the netting or you would have them flying up and over it.

    Bookmark     December 28, 2007 at 6:58PM
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gardeninprogress

Thanks for all the advice! I will give this careful thought.

There's a good foot of snow at this place at the moment. One person suggests I sow the perrenial seed over the snow. . . . but I'm not sure this just wouldn't be throwing out bird seed for the birds.

IF the seed melts down to the ground through the snow in the spring. . . . THEN I would consider something like this just before another snowfall. But I'm no expert in this area. . .

I think I'll ask this question again in this forum.

    Bookmark     December 29, 2007 at 11:21AM
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tfjonas

Thank you,

I appreciate the advice.

Troy

    Bookmark     December 28, 2007 at 12:15PM
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lalameija(8 oregon)

I have found that you don't even have to worry about collecting seed. Mt Japanese maple produces seedling on it's own and I dig them out of the ground when they are about an inch tall.

    Bookmark     December 29, 2007 at 5:32AM
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dorisl(5)

I would expect they would grow! Unless they are some fancy schmancy hybrid plant that doesnt make good seeds.

:)

    Bookmark     December 25, 2007 at 9:41PM
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daniellalell

Gerberas are somewhat a pain in the butt to grow from seed. Normally there are only a couple viable seeds from each flower. You can just throw them on soft soil in the spring where you want them to grow. Or you can start them in seed starting soil, making sure to have the fluffy end up sticking out of the soil. Just like it would naturally land from the air carrying it. The fatter the seed the better chance you have that it is viable. Keep moist but not soggy.
I love my Gerberas! Not supposed to be hardy here where I am, but I have had mine for 3 years already, always come back, and have had a few reseed without my help. Don't be surprised if they aren't true to the parent.

Good Luck!
Daniella

    Bookmark     December 28, 2007 at 8:20PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

The green beans & cukes are best sown direct & not indoors. Tomatoes & peppers take 8-10 weeks to be large enough to set out. & neither likes cool evenings much less frost.SO>>> figure when you can set them out & count back 10 weeks.

    Bookmark     December 27, 2007 at 7:12PM
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tommie_jo(z8b TX)

Call your county Cooperative Extension Office or check the web for your county Master Gardener group - they can help provide the last expected frost date range for your area and recommended vegetable variety list.

In my zone 8b, peppers like more heat than tomatoes so I start those seeds about 2 weeks later than my tomatoes. I use 6 packs planting 3 seeds per cell thinning to the strongest as they grow on and bumping up as needed before planting outside.

Tomatoes can be bumped up into larger pots (community pot > deep 4" or deep coffee [plastic or paper] cups > 1 gal - set deeper each time to encourage more root development before setting them out in garden or giving them to gardening friends!

I have an indoor seed starting arrangement made from metal shelves, each with 2 stoplight fixtures equipped with daylight spectrum bulbs or 1 warm & 1 cool bulb (set about 3 inches above seedlings and left on for 14-16 hours daily) and seedling heat mats with thermostats to control soil temperatures. After the seeds emerge I remove the clear plastic dome and turn on my small circulating fan for an hour daily to provide air movement which strengthens seedlingÂs stems; as seedlings grow on I bump them up to individual pots at the 2 true leaf stage, start ¼ strength liquid balanced fertilizer, lower the soil temperature and keep raising the lights to maintain proper distance. Be sure to label each pot or youÂll loose track of varieties.
Take pictures and keep notebook of what, when, where so you can make adjustments in the future.

Note: All seedlings need to be hardened off over 7-8 days before finally planting out in the garden  less transplant shock that way! Tomatoes only can be planted deeply leaving 2 sets of leaves above ground; in no time youÂll have big, healthy plants and early tomatoes provided you keep soil moisture even and drench soil with Epsom salts (2 T./gal) to keep blossom end rot at bay provided itÂs a problem in your garden!

Beans and cucumbers are easily started in the garden after soil has warmed a bit  they hate cold wet soils.

Happy Gardening!

TJ

    Bookmark     December 28, 2007 at 7:22PM
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king_o_seeds(5/ia)

Wait, I've got another one. When you get a restraining order gainst your neighbor because he/she keeps finding you in their backyard with a flashlight and pruners.

    Bookmark     December 14, 2007 at 10:39PM
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ibartoo(z8 sc)

When you terrify your child by shrieking with joy when he says" mom look what I brought for you" and it is a whole pocketfull of camellia seeds! Ah... i am teaching him well.....

    Bookmark     December 28, 2007 at 10:53AM
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mojogardener(z6a / KS)

I started with just a few plants in the basement about three years ago. Last year with a four year old daughter helping and wanting her own flower bed out front, we went from a one light set-up to a three light set-up with a timer, and from strictly vegetables to both edible and beautiful to look at. Needless to say, we've both learned a lot along the way. As I write this, she has her nose in a catalog, and we invested in "The Gardener's A-Z Guide to growing flowers from Seed to Bloom" (Eileen Powell)
OK, back to the point. It's something that I tried just to see if I could do it. Now every seedling that goes into the ground is started "in house." If you have a little helper like I have, it's well worth however much it cost'.

    Bookmark     December 16, 2007 at 6:29PM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

I do it because I get unusual plants/exotic colors only catalog seeds can give me. I do it because I like doing it. Yes, you can get earlier bloom with some plants. With others (like cosmos and zinnia) I find they do best planted directly outside. You learn from experience.

Lately (after doing it for 30 years) it's become a bit of a chore so I stopped doing seeds that need to be started before March 1st and buy those plants in the nursery.

I use an 8 tray light setup with two shop lights next to each other on each level, each light with one ordinary 40 watt tube and one full spectrum tube.

Keep a list of when each plant needs to be started (by weeks before last frost), keep the lights no more than an inch from the plants, and always have a fan or slightly open window in the plant room to prevent fungus. Try to water from the bottom and without soaking the top of the soil.

Have as much fun with this and go nuts obsessing over whatever you feel comfortable with. Rewmember, it's for pleasure!

    Bookmark     December 23, 2007 at 8:30PM
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ohgirl

HAhahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!Thats funny.Ohgirl

    Bookmark     December 23, 2007 at 6:40AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Excuse me!!!!! That should have been YOUR not four
Since when did a mis-stroke of the key board become more important than the accuracy of the information. Please excuse any mis-spellings. in this posting.....

    Bookmark     December 23, 2007 at 9:30AM
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alexinoklahoma(6.5)

This link should help you *greatly* -> http://www.evergreengardenworks.com/cedars.htm

It helped me a great deal, fwiw. Got me a fair-% of C deodara germinated using this 'method'... Cedar seed is *super-sensitive* to damp-off, if you were unaware of that, so be VERY cautious in how moist the media/seed is kept at all times. Seems all Cedrus is more or less same in requirements for germination, and all sensitive to damping, as well :-)

Many other articles at that site worth reading, too, if interested in growing the seed out in pots - just change the last term from /cedars.htm to /articles.htm

HTH,
Alex

    Bookmark     December 22, 2007 at 7:45AM
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jdeibel

Thanks much to both responders for the valuable info.
Seems like a lot of work/ dedication. I may be too old for such a long term project, but then again, who knows what
benefits may be derived.

    Bookmark     December 22, 2007 at 9:09AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

I have always used cuttings for the reason stated. SO>>> If you like a chalange set up a expermint 1/2 seed cold period 3 months then sow some in the light & others in dard. Other 1/2 seed sow some in light & remainder in dark THEN let us know the results.

    Bookmark     December 20, 2007 at 8:23AM
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cliviajohn(z7NY)

I planted these seeds under a very small amount of potting soil about a month ago. I planted about 10 seeds. I used a growlight over the pot. Keep soil moist with plastic bag over the pot. I've had 2 seeds germinate.

John

    Bookmark     December 21, 2007 at 6:49PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Never collected seed. & do not remember seed pods. only sugestion is go ahead & plant & see what happons THEN let us know.

    Bookmark     December 20, 2007 at 8:28AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Use well drained soil or compost. act like a broad bean.

    Bookmark     December 20, 2007 at 8:25AM
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rjinga

can you say SPAM?

always funny how these people sign up the same day they post a link to some site....

Nice try...

    Bookmark     December 19, 2007 at 8:00PM
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franktank232(z5 WI)

I'm GUESSING, not sure, that the seed will need stratifying for a few months in refrigerator like temps (moist). What types of blueberry are you starting?

    Bookmark     December 12, 2007 at 11:16AM
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rosepedal(Four seasons zone4/5)

Frank I am not sure what types they are. I think I will try to wintersow them. It appears they like the cold temps. Barb

    Bookmark     December 17, 2007 at 5:57PM
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