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dogdaze3001

With the greatest of respect I would suggest that if you want to cut down (no pun intended!) on your maintenance, then you are growing and planning to grow the wrong plants.
You may be better of by growing something like a climbing or rambling rose, you would of course have to tie it in but it would be most unlikely to strangle your spout, obviously you would need to be picky about the variety or species, with such as R.gigantea and R.filipes 'Kiftsgate' perhaps being a tad unsuitable!

    Bookmark     November 7, 2007 at 8:17AM
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dogdaze3001

Oh!No! Politics and interstate rivalries, is this thread sinking to a new low?

1eyedJack and the Dawg - try some of that good old sippin' whiskey and chill, life's too short!

;-)

    Bookmark     November 6, 2007 at 5:31AM
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bearstate(9A)

Come Come now. Not everybody in California wants to tear down crosses, eliminate 'In God We Trust' from currency and chain the masses to useful labor for the common good of humanity while supporting criminals and undermining our national identity for a vote. Bears are still safe in the 'Bear Flag' state.

Even among Democrats, there are many who think their party should split into two separate parties. They just don't know how to make the necessary sacrifice or aren't yet happy with the alternatives that have started to pop up.

    Bookmark     November 6, 2007 at 2:25PM
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inuyashalover21(6 nw nj)

sorry i am in zone 6 north western new jersey.

    Bookmark     November 6, 2007 at 9:31AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Germination rate varies from tree to tree & year to year. Also have to consider survival rate... just getting though winter without being eaten by mice, etc..... We usually plant many more seed than needed & hope.... give extra plants to friends,

    Bookmark     November 6, 2007 at 12:50PM
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dampflippers(Tyne & Wear UK)

I have one, and wouldn't trust it with my best plants to give too much protection from frost, but it will certainly help for odd nights of frost- rather than a long period below zero.
I had some baby aloes, and only one survived...(but this may also have been due to drought).

But you can definitely use it for earlier seedlings and hardening off.

In England you can now buy a zip fleece coat for them!

    Bookmark     November 6, 2007 at 4:25AM
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sheltieche

If you put it in protected spot, it will help you with seedlings during those nights when temps drop to 32-33 level. After that it bound to get frozen as during night there will not be protection of anything so no difference of temps outside and inside.
Some hardy annuals and hardy perennials won't mind it. Let's say you can put there your early pancies and get away with it.

    Bookmark     November 6, 2007 at 7:56AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Remove pulp then Soak seed in water for 24 hours the store at 40F for 4 weeks then>>>>> do not cover seed as 9 hours of light is needed for germination + soil temp 60-70F & takes 28-35 days to germinate

    Bookmark     November 5, 2007 at 4:13PM
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rkapolka

George

Thanks for your response to my question about Liriope seeds.
Is there an easy way to remove the pulp?
After I posted my question I did find a research study that did talk about the warm stratification of the seeds. I've never heard of that before but I'm also a newbie.
Is it worth the effort to grow from seeds or should I just be trying to increase my plants by division?
Any other helpful hints would be appreciated.

    Bookmark     November 5, 2007 at 8:09PM
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joytwo1839(z6 TN)

Thanks all - I will wait until after the first of the year, maybe do the delp. first and then the foxglove. I guess I was hoping to get them big enough to bloom next summer.
Thanks

    Bookmark     November 1, 2007 at 8:53AM
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naturemitch(3/4 WI)

Hi Joytwo,

Just a note....i had started 'foxy' digitalis and they bloomed for me the first year...even starting after jan. 1. Now if you start some other digitalis...they may be a true biennial...no matter how early you may start them up. Also, the delphiniums bloomed for me, albeit somewhat weakly. The next year is when they really put on their show:)

good luck with whatever you experiment with:)
m

    Bookmark     November 3, 2007 at 12:25AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Sorry, missed the second part of your question earlier....busy with trick or treaters :)

There are some good online germination guides - Clothiers is great, take time to read through the sowing articles too.....if you were looking for a book, Making More Plants by Ken Druse is very helpful

Here is a link that might be useful: Clothiers Germination Database

    Bookmark     October 31, 2007 at 11:00PM
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chrystal2277

Thank you very much for your advice. First time I have harvested my own seeds so I am excited to see what happens. This site is amazing!

    Bookmark     November 1, 2007 at 9:35AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

This is a zone 9 plant (TREE) also called Australian Chestnut........Lightly cover the seed soil temp 65-70F. & must soak seed in water for 24 hours first

    Bookmark     October 23, 2007 at 7:45PM
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dogdaze3001

The last time that I heard of someone buying "Lucky beans"
it cost him a heifer and a whole lot of grief from some big jock armed with a club, so some caution is advised!
;-)

    Bookmark     November 1, 2007 at 8:38AM
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dogdaze3001

Sorry that you've had to wait awhile for an answer to your post. According to B & T World seeds, Beaumontia grandiflora seeds will usually germinate in 7-30 days. Sow seeds about 2mm deep in a Peaty seed sowing mix at about 22°C.

    Bookmark     October 31, 2007 at 12:39PM
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sebastian(8-9)

Thanks so much for your assistance.
Barbie

    Bookmark     October 31, 2007 at 11:20PM
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dogdaze3001

Cristi, from the nature of your query I would guess that you are looking for non hybrid and or heirloom varieties of vegetables, possibly you are also interested in organic sources for this seed, if this is the case the following link lists 153 sources of supply ...

Here is a link that might be useful: GreenPeople website

    Bookmark     October 29, 2007 at 5:54AM
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joytosew(5MO)

I was looking through the Johnny's seed catalog. Trying to figure out what was heirloom or open pollinated and what was hybrid.
Thank you for the web site it is so helpful. I do want as many of my vegetables to be heirloom/organic as I can get to plant next year. I have a fenced area I am going to keep all my heirloom/organic items in. I am planning a potager area. The website is really helpful!

thank you,
cristi

    Bookmark     October 30, 2007 at 11:29PM
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bakemom_gw(z6 Central Ohio)

I don't harest my dats until the pods crack and open. Then, I dry the seeds for several days indoors in a bowl. Many times, seeds are not ready until the pods crack and ma nature lets them loose. I'm not sure that's a hard-line rule for datura.

    Bookmark     October 30, 2007 at 5:43PM
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karyn1(7a)

I try to allow them to split on the plant but will cut the largest ones and allow them to dry inside if we're expecting a hard freeze. The pods will survive just fine and continue to ripen through a few light frosts, even if the foliage has been killed back.
Karyn

    Bookmark     October 30, 2007 at 11:06PM
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victor50

Does anyone have suggestions where I can find a good online seed source for abies concolor (white fir) 'Candicans'?

    Bookmark     October 30, 2007 at 7:17AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

It sound like you have some seed. But do not count on them producing plants like the Parent ... for that reason the plants resulting from these seed will indeen be interisting.... to germinate do not cover the seed soil temp 78-80F & takes about 21 days to germinate.... best of luck.

    Bookmark     October 28, 2007 at 4:05PM
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karyn1(7a)

Thanks so much. I figured that they wouldn't be true to the parent I was just wondering if they were actually seeds. I guess it's time to get out the seed mat. Should I over sow these? What is the germination rate usually like? There must be 10's of thousands of seeds. I had about a dozen pods that were full.
Karyn

    Bookmark     October 28, 2007 at 4:20PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Try soaking a couple of days, then push out the hard seed and wash in dishwashing soap to remove any oily residue.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2007 at 11:57PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Donna, you don't say what climate zone you are in, or which crape myrtle...there are some newer varieties that are more tolerant of cold, but depending on variety, crape myrtles can be grown from USDA hardiness zones 6 to 10. In zone 6, even the most cold-hardy varieties will probably be killed to the ground each winter and will be useful only as a shrubby, flowering perennial. I have to add too, that I have 'Zuni' in my own Z8 coastal garden in my hottest possible position with my light colored house to reflect heat - in 10 years time it's an interesting small tree with bronzy foliage and great peeling bark but it's never ever bloomed. Not enough summer heat.

Very fresh seed that hasn't been stored or dried will often germinate, very lightly covered as some light may be beneficial to germination, 70-75F, without the cold period preceding sowing.

If the seed has dried, as George notes in the other crape post: stratify 4 weeks at 40F, lightly cover the seed, soil temp 70-75F & takes 15-20 days to germinate & 15 weeks to reach large enough to set out - so you'll have to calculte your own average last frost date and count backwards.

    Bookmark     October 25, 2007 at 8:00PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

Depending on what kind of setup you have for growing seedlings, crepe myrtle seeds can be started in mid to late winter in order to get decent-sized plants by the time they're set out when warm weather arrives in spring. If you have adequate light, the young plants will remain healthy until they're transitioned into the garden.

There are crepe myrtles (especially some dwarf varieties) that will be hardy into USDA zone 5 as returning perennials, blooming nicely if (as the previous poster noted) they have adequate summer heat, and if there's full sun. I grow several varieties of crepes here on the northern fringe of zone 6 and some types will flower heavily for months. In a mild winter most to all of the wood of the hardier types will survive, meaning earlier blooming.

Your chances of getting a tree form crepe in eastern Canada are not good, but depending on where you're located and whether a sheltered spot is available, you can still have flowering crepes as perennials/shrubs.

    Bookmark     October 27, 2007 at 5:23PM
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