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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

I don't know how these will do in your climate (recommended zone range is 3-9 generally), but I do know they are fairly specific in what they require for germination. Warm moist, cold moist, cool moist, in that order.

Impervious seed coats. Shake in dry sharp sand or nick carefully with a file. Sow at 64-71ºF for 2-4 wks, move to 24-39ºF for 4-6 wks, move to 41-53ºF for germination which may be erratic (meaning not all the seedlings will appear at the same time)

Easy way to do them is put them in a tiny zip lock with just a tsp or two of sterile moist vermiculite or sterile moist sand, leave them on your desk. Date the bag. Then move the bag to your refrigerator (not freezer) and date again. If your temperatures by the end of the second period are close to 50, or an average day/night of 50 in Fall to Winter, take your bag of seeds and sow the contents, vermiculite and all, place outdoors. (I have a problem achieving that 50ish temp indoors and depend on Mother Nature here).

    Bookmark     July 30, 2007 at 11:11PM
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yellowseashell(8)

Wow! I am glad I ask the question. I will try but from the information given I may be wasting my time but then again learning is what it's all about.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2007 at 1:11AM
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pitimpinai(z6 Chicago)

Hi Carol,
Wait until the pods dry, i.e turn tan color. They will split on their own and expose rows of thin black seeds. It may be a good idea to wrap each pod with a square of nylon to prevent bugs from tunneling through the pods and the rows of seeds. I don't know if this will work, but it's worth a try.
Good luck
:-)

I love Yucca too, especially the bluish green with curly threads and the green and yellow stripes.

Here is a link that might be useful: Yucca seeds

    Bookmark     July 31, 2007 at 12:04AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Tania, I looked for photos of sugar cane mulch in place in a garden (not something I would find in this part of the world :))
and it seems to be a shredded product. First, your seeds will not germinate under it, and second, I don't think you could keep seeds moist enough to germinate on top of it.
One of the purposes of any mulch is to keep weed seeds from germinating, and the mulch won't know a good seed from weed.

You would do better pulling the mulch back where you want to sow the seeds, pushing it back into place when the seedlings have gained a little size, or sowing your annuals in pots and transplanting them.

    Bookmark     July 30, 2007 at 10:38AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Both require a cold period before they germinate may (1) sow now outside for germination in spring or (2) store in vegi keeper for 12 weks then sow inside for germination/transplant in spring.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 2:27PM
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carol5(5SEMI)

I also am in zone 5. I'm in Adrian Michigan & I have had good luck with liatrus when I winter-sowed it. (Winter Sowing Forum explains). But it didn't bloom the first year and was very small. I almost forgot that I had it in my garden until this yr. and it's blooming it's head off, looking very healthy. My friends say that when you have larkspur in the garden, you will always have it since it's a rampant self-sower. I find that with cone flower it's slow going with any method, so I just let it reseed usually. Happy Gardening.

Carol

    Bookmark     July 29, 2007 at 10:34PM
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julianna_il(z6 IL)

Thanks, George. I had wondered about heating pads or an electric blanket, but would that help warm the area around the stems and leaves or just the soil and roots?

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 11:13PM
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bonnys

I would suggest the electric heater and a "green house" to keep the warmth around the plants. There are a variety of ways you can create your own green house. I have used large cake containers (like they sell b-day cakes in at the grocery store). I have also used plastic sheeting to enclose a complete shelf (above, below and both sides) on my plant stand. I have not used an electric heater so I am not sure about the temps this would create but you have plenty of time to experiment before spring sowing.

Bonny

    Bookmark     July 29, 2007 at 10:19AM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

Leave the pod on the plant till it is "dry' & the pod starts to split

    Bookmark     July 28, 2007 at 3:10PM
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billsa65

Hi Georgez5il,
Thank you so much for your reply and it seems that you are quite the expert as so indicated on your page. I have taken the liberty to send you an e-mail.

God bless..............

-Billsa65

    Bookmark     July 28, 2007 at 10:47PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

The seed will not come "TRUE" from seed will resemble the 2 parents.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 2:31PM
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edee(z5/6, NY)

Thanks georgez for the info. I guess I'll buy the real thing!

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 9:16PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

The seed should be allowed to "ripen" on the plant when they start to "dry" then may pick & store the heads upside down with a paper (etc) to collect any seed that fall. Seed does need at least a 4 week cold period which could be outside or in the vegi keeper.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 2:39PM
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krazy_karma(z8a WA)

Thanks, George!

So how about this? When they start looking dry, I trim the stem, put it upside-down in a paper bag, and hang it in the shed? There's no heat in the shed. Will that work?

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 7:34PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

There is a web sit for trading & selling seed will have better luck there

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 2:28PM
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schellehawk89(Zone 8 Georgia)

Thank you for your response, georgez5il. I will try that. I appreciate you getting back to me. Thanks again.
Schelle

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 6:36PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

I do not have specific info BUT store in a cool dry location till ready to sow. Soak seed in water for 12-24 hours. then lightly cover the seed soil temp 75-85F.
I have always use cuttings to propagate this plant.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 2:35PM
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dinajean(upstate SC -Zone 7b)

Thanks, do I plant them in a pot in the spring? I vaguely remember reading somewhere that they germinate in the fall. What does that mean? Sorry to be SO stupid, I am very brand new at this!

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 4:59PM
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georgez5il(z5 IL)

does not come true from seed

    Bookmark     July 27, 2007 at 2:30PM
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kansasblazer(Zone 6 -Kansas)

Sounds like you may be transplanting them way too deep in the soil. Just lightly cover them with soil, keep them out of direct sunlight, and don't overwater.

    Bookmark     July 25, 2007 at 10:50PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

It depends on which yellow baptisia you are growing. If you have one of the native yellows (i.e. b. spaerocarpa) and your plant is isolated (they cross pollinate easily), your seedlings should be like the plant you gathered the seeds from. Hybrids like Carolina Moonlight (cross between a white and a yellow) will not come true from seed, at least not 100% of the time, although you could find you have some nice plants if you are patient enough to grow them to flowering size.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2007 at 11:33AM
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leaveswave(.)

Well, unfortunately I canÂt do anything about our 80-degree temps during the day, though nights are a bit cooler. Is that whatÂs keeping them from getting any bigger?

They have to be about 8 weeks from germination by now but they are miniscule in sizeÂÂweÂre talking no height to speak of and not even 1 mm (yes, you read that right) wide. Nowhere near big enough to plant out. They are not going dormant, they are just sitting there.

How can I encourage them to grow more?

    Bookmark     July 19, 2007 at 4:54PM
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leaveswave(.)

This forum seems a little slow--has the heat got everyone down, or is there a better forum to post my question?

    Bookmark     July 24, 2007 at 7:46AM
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