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I never got an answer to my question but I have been watching the specks and they never move.
I have variety of seedlings going and I only find the specks on Malvaviscus Arboreus var. Drummondlli seedlings.
Still no white flies etc. moving around any of the seedlings. I am beginning to wonder if this is some kind of reation to the water (well) that I am using.
Does anyone have any ideas?
TIA
Cindi

The seedlings are now withstanding full day sun at 70 to 75 degrees.
Then they are hardened off.
Usually it is a gradual process - outdoors in the shade for an hour or so 1st day and then slowly increasing time over several days before exposure to full sun. But in your zone you still have quite a bit of time before you can plant most things. What kind of seedlings are we talking about and how big are these?
Check out some of these discussions on it linked below.
Here is a link that might be useful: Hardening Off

Hi digdirt & thank you for the information.
I have variety of zinnia, geranium, morning glory, nasturtium, tomatoes, shasta daisy, and pampus grass.
Some are 6" + tall with tons of leaves, some are 3" to 4" tall with 3 sets of true leaves.
I did go thru the search for hardening off, but most posts don't apply to my zone, so i'm not sure how to use it.
Thanks
Tonia


I had to pinch a few bad leaves myself, they were just not looking good,on about 5 plants out of 100 (I start them for myself, firends,family and neighbors)!!So.....I pinched them a few weeks ago and the plants are doing fine still, they did not show excess growth due to the pinching, nor get stunted. They are keeping up with all the rest just missing a few leaves!So......I am assuming when a leaf looks bad, no matter where on the plant, pinch it!
AND yes...save those seeds for next year! Seeds can last MANY years! Hence the heirlooms!

Here's an image and more information from Floridata. I guess it is also called Malvaviscus penduliflorus. I'm going to experiment with sowing the seeds when I get a chance and post my results.
Here is a link that might be useful: picture of Turk's Cap Hibiscus

My newbie mistakes last year were big ones! I felt like an idiot! I did the sowing flats for some seeds, none survived that, still dont know why. But I used a 4" deep round plastic tray w/ potting soil to plant moonflowers. No drainage holes, and only 2" of soil!!!! They actually popped up great, grew to about 3 in tall, then died!! Gee...could it be because of the lack of room for their roots?? LOL!! I had 7 butterfly weed and 5 magnus purple coneflowers survive. Planted them in styrofone cups, once again no drainage, must've been lucky. I also didn't harden them off. So I was REALLY lucky.

One thing I have learned (not a newbie but always learning better ways to be successful)I always wet my soil completely before I set the seed. I do this because it seems the soil has a tendency to soak up the water in certain areas and not the entire surface. If you start iwth wet, not dripping soil I think you have a better chance of keeping it moist. I use the started trays with the little net wrapped plugs, I soak them good, place the seed, cover it with the lid and when they start to sprout I remove the lid and let them go. This year I did sweet peas, climbing blackeyed susan, impatence, asters, bach buttons, marigolds, cosmos, they all did fine, they are in the ground already. Drainage is key! Set them in the shade for a few hours a few days or week before planting them out. They burn easily and dry out fast when placed outside so keep an eye on them.


They are under a "natural Light" fluorescent bulb, 48" long, with my other seedlings. My husband said that he thought that I had the light too close. It was less than four inches from the morning glories. The other seedlings are all so much shorter that I was hesitant to move the light up much higher.
I have now. I just hope that they are able to repair themselves, if that is what the problem was. The new leaves are continuing to grow well.
Also, I had the light on for 14-16 hours a day. Is that too much time for the flower's needs. The veggies are all very happy.
Thanks!

I am zone 4 and my soil temp was 69 this morning! I have my sun flowers in already, some direct sown some prestarted in the house! Sunflowers are an annual but often reseed themself so I KNOW that a chilly soil does not harm the seed, it will just not grow until the soil warms up! I say plant them...when the soil is right temp they will show you!!!

You can absolutely start sunflowers now. We grow a couple acres of multiple varieties of sunflowers. We direct sow the first seeds in mid April (not this year because of the unusually cold temps) and continue every two weeks through the beginning of Sept. Our fields have rows covered in landscape plastic so it gives us a couple extra weeks on either end of the growing season.
Karyn


Lately I've been having my moonflowers sprout the next day (I nick, soak in a cup of water for a few hrs, then do paper towel/baggie method)... but I have the paper towel/baggies all sitting on a seedling heating mat. Personally, I have found the paper towel/baggie method to work with everything except tiny seeds - I don't use it for papyrus, vaccinium, or basil - too difficult to remove the tiny little rooted seeds from the paper towel! For those I just scatter them on top of damp peat and put that container (usu. a small yogurt container with slits cut in the bottom w/scissors), and put that into a baggie for humidity.

Could this be sunscorching?
Yes. That and the effects of the severe light/temp change. Just like we humans. :-)
It affects the most established plants the most because there is more there to get ~shocked~ ;). If not too badly damaged they will recover but baby them, a little misting (feels good on a sunburn), keep them inside or under cover until they do and no feeding.

That sounds right to me, too. Actually the other marigolds are turning purple, too. The seed leaves for both the 2 foot and 6 inch marigolds are purple withthe larger ones more affected. The zinnias are completely fine though-- but then again, they are not dealing withthe seed leaves thing. Does that put stress on plants? Also how do I keep them covered if they are in a 72 cell tray with others being hardened off?
--Zinn



It's true. The division size depends on how big the old clump is. I usually go for cutting in half but you can do thirds or even fourths on really big 3' wide clumps.
It is best done when the plant is dormant, use a very sharp knife to slice vertically down through the plant, root ball and all. Re-plant the divisions and water well.


In reality it doesn't cover that much space. The primary coverage from a 1000 watt bulb is about 15 sq ft, maybe less. The plants on the perimeter don't receive enough light. We ended up putting reflective paper (actually it's more like mylar) on the walls to increase the amount of light.
Karyn
I find that fluorescents provide a gentler light that works better for most seedlings, but HID lights are great for growing on to larger transplants, especially for tomatoes and peppers. For a 1000-watt metal halide light, I had a room divider (the futon-store kind) made up lined with foylon, a reflective fabric like mylar, to make a growing niche against corner walls painted white. It works very well for a roughly 5' Ã 5' growing area.