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Agree that it is optional but it is commonly recommended by US growers. It acts as a growth stimulant triggering new root and leaf development. Your choice.
Dave
Edited to aid - why not dry trimming some and leaving some alone and note the differences for future reference?
This post was edited by digdirt on Thu, Mar 6, 14 at 11:53

For me, it is just another poppy. I don't have a problem germinating or transplanting them. I don't agree on warm germination as I typically find germination better when temps are kept under 20C. That being said the poppy is one of the few plants I prefer to direct sow as I don't find much advantage starting early, especially since the blooms shatter so fast. I like to direct sow every few weeks to get max bloom time.
Good luck.
SCG

Plug flats (what you have there) aren't normally used with trays. They are just dipped to water and then removed and left as is.
But there are some trays made for them - called watering trays or carrying trays - but they aren't inexpensive. Check Novosel Enterprises website and amaplas.com if interested.
Cheaper alternative is one of the Sterlite or Rubbermaid shallow closet storage bins sold at Walmart.
Dave

Thanks for your replies. Dave, just curious...What prevents the potting soil from coming out the bottom as the water drains from the plug flats? When the medium needs follow-up dipping's later it would seem that a little more of the medium would be drained out each time.

I'm new to this as well. Gave my first real go at starting from seeds last year, so I'm not much help, but I have read a TON. You didn't mention how long you had your lights on, but everything I read mentions to have your lights on between 12 and 18 hours a day. I haven't paid attention to the calendar when I move to bigger pots either, but if I had to guess, I'd say about 5 weeks. One tomato gardener recommend transplanting to bigger pots when they start to sprout their first real set of leaves (not the cotyledons - first two to appear). Good luck to us both!

Looking great so far! Better than what I set up the first time around! I've been adjusting myset up over the last few months based on everything I've learned on here.
My only issue is I planted more than I have room for now I have like 50 plants and only two shelves of 2x4 spaces. x.x


Hi.
After trying for three weeks with various methods (baggie, cold strat, soilless mix etc), I was able to germinate one seed.
I wonder if adding plant hormone will give it a healthy head start. MY seedling looks a bit weak and I wanna do everything i can to help it thrive since its the only seed that germinated.
Also in general, is it good to use plant hormones (hormex) to seedlings?
Thanks.



I have very little first-hand knowledge with citrus seeds, and the ones I have grown were not scarified, BUT lots of sources say that doing so improves germination rate. Drakemoore, if you find a good answer (and especially if you find a good explanation of why), please come back and tell us here.


You don't want to plant potatoes immediately after cutting. The rot too easily if you don't let the cut end dry. My husband cuts ours up and puts them in the garden shed for about a week. It is dark and dry in there. After that he plants them and we never have a problem with them sprouting after they are planted.
I don't see a problem leaving them for longer

Lots of info on germinating those seeds comes up on Google and per all the standard germination databases it requires cold stratification.
There are numerous seed germination databases available and most are linked in the discussions here about all of them. They all include the need for stratification or not in their info for each plant.
I linked 1 of the recent discussions below. Hope this answers your question.
Dave
Here is a link that might be useful: List of seed germination databases

Using cold frames is a hands on learning experience. I have several of similar design and they're all somewhat different as to how much heat they hold. Here in zone 5 I probably won't start putting tender plants out until April. I have no problem putting cold tolerant plants out in the frames practically anytime during the cold season.
Generally the seedlings go in the frame where there is full shade for a few days, then partial shade and finally full sun. Not unlike hardening off in the great outdoors.
If it gets really cold I cover the top with space blanket tarps and or old sleeping bags. I also do that with my tunnels. My roommate says it looks like a shantytown.


Oh, always....but what do I care? I am going to be eating them whatever variety and I can usually recognise flower seedlings pretty early. I barely even bother with any labelling since it has been a cause of so much stress (since I grow at least 20000 seedlings every year).
It's all a nice surprise.

Agree that you don't need to order special grow bulbs for seedlings. Lots of discussions here about that fact. But if you want to use them for some reason then if they will fit will depend on the bulb.
Length isn't the only issue, so is the diameter and the pin distance, and if the ballast in the fixture will be strong enough to trigger them. Some of the chip board ballasts won't. Usually if they are the same diameter of regular shop light bulb then the pins will fit.
Dave

If you don't have the bulbs yet, consider using a warm white and a cool white together. You can surely get them in the right size for a shop light, for less money. One is stronger in the blue end of the spectrum, the other stronger in the red end. Together, they give a broader spectrum than either one alone. Grow lights give still more of the spectrum, but I'm not sure your seedlings will care.

Thank you everyone. The one image that looks like 'pot' is an African Marigold.
I didn't evne think much of those spots, was thinking more about my tomato plants issues.
Upon closer inspection from you guys mentioning it, it does appear it has spidermites of some sort. Close up image included, click for full-res.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wuhh7fg4rs4ortt/2014-03-03%2014.51.02.jpg
Thank you. I've isolated the plant, might just give up on the flowers all together since they're wasting growing space and are cheap to buy/and I can seed them directly later instead.
also the original concern was the spots on the cherokee purples which slight leaf curl but seems the spots are normal. :)
Also they are all a bit root bound, need to find a way to pot them up again I guess or do you think they'll be okay for another 2-3 weeks? Maybe another month depending on our weather. I have some half-gal and 1 gal containers, but not enough room for the 50 or so total tomato/pepper plants I have.


Also they are all a bit root bound, need to find a way to pot them up again I guess or do you think they'll be okay for another 2-3 weeks? Maybe another month depending on our weather. I have some half-gal and 1 gal containers, but not enough room for the 50 or so total tomato/pepper plants I have.
That's the problem all of us encounter when we start the plants too early and the weather doesn't cooperate. But they can't remain rootbound. That only stresses them more and risks plant loss from pests or transplant shock.
So some interim solution is usually required. Things like more space/lights or a cold frame they can go into or a low tunnel to protect them, pre-warming your soil and planting them under protection, etc. Some even have to sacrifice some plants for the good of the rest.
I don't know what size pots you are currently using but increasing it even a small amount will be better than doing nothing. What is your normal plant-out date?
Dave



Hi Katie,
Yes, if water is dripping down the inside of the bag, your growing medium is too wet. You should see just a very light mist on the bag. Remove the cover until the medium dries out a bit.
If your âÂÂheat sourceâ is an electric heat mat, you probably should use some kind of cover over the seeds (you donâÂÂt want the heat mat trying to heat the entire room). Otherwise, if youâÂÂre home enough to make sure the growing medium doesnâÂÂt dry out completely, you may find it easier to not even use a cover. Many folks donâÂÂt use covers. Some seeds germinate so quickly anyway, fooling with covers is almost a waste of time :-)
Art
Thanks so much, Art. I appreciate it. I will take the cover off tonight and see what happens.
Katie