6,340 Garden Web Discussions | Growing from Seed

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billie_ladybug(5b)

Carol, I always keep ALL of my seed in the refrigorator. I actually have a refrigorator just for them now. Anything that is coming in a "planting mix" probably does not need to be chilled before planting, but it won't hurt them any. Any extra that you want to hang on to for next year, put in an airtight container (I recycle Mayo and peanut butter jars for this) with a packet of silica gel if you have one. I started tomatoe seeds this year that are ten years old with 85% germination!!

B

    Bookmark     April 23, 2007 at 3:01PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Carol, I don't have any experiences with mixes, but I wouldn't think a seed company would put seeds with greatly different germination requirements in the same package. You're probably safe in following the suggestions on the seed envelope back...Do they tell you what time of year to sow?

But I did want you to know when you come across a seed that needs stratifying (a chill to break dormancy), the chill must be moist. Dry in the refrigerator is a good way to store, but it's storage.

Scattered thundershowers would save you a bit of work in not needing to water to keep your seeds moist....unless, you are expecting a deluge that could move your seeds around or wash them loose. :)

    Bookmark     April 23, 2007 at 5:59PM
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Judy_B_ON(Ontario 5B)

How did you use it? It would be very unusual for fertilizer to kill plants unless you had put it on the leaves. It is supposed to be worked into the soil, and the label warns to wash off leaves. Like other granular fertilizers, it is supposed to be activated by water so I don't understand the "crumbled by rain" comment.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 10:24PM
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quirkyquercus

Actually it's a pretty common occurance given the number of posts to the tree forums

    Bookmark     April 23, 2007 at 11:27AM
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parad0x(Z7 Philadelphia)

I've only tried the Lavender variety "Lady", and I had blooms mid summer last year from it so I went with it again this year and have 7 small starts. I use the wet coffee filter in baggie method for germination, which usually takes less than a week...give or take. If you're unaware of what that method is. Wet a coffee filter (bleached/unbleached whatever) thourougly, sprinkle the seeds on it, fold it up then place in a plastic baggie. Blow a puff of air into the baggie before sealing it up. I then place the baggie (for other seeds/plants as well) on top of my cable box (for gentle bottom heat), and check every day to make sure the filter stays moist, and for germination. Once germination occurs, proceed as normal into seed starting mix/under lights.

Hope this helps...could be the variety, or method you're using for germination....hope it helps...

Todd In Philly

    Bookmark     April 22, 2007 at 4:24PM
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tannabanana

I planted snapdragons from seed last year. They were a little slow to handle the sun. Like you I put them out in the shade (like your overcast days) and after a few days into the sun. I learned that I had to start them in the early morning full sun and then move them into the shade come around 10 am. Hard to do for you if you work outside the home though. After a few days of this, they seemed to handle the sun okay.

The good news is that their final planting spot was in some planters that were in full sun. They did very well all summer. I did plant them in the MG Moisture control potting soil.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2007 at 9:41AM
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prosodygardener(5a)

Wow is right. It's always something.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2007 at 8:59PM
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tomakers(SE MA Zone 5/6 or ?)

Years ago I had managed to gather leaves to about 1' thick on my 30x75 garden. It took a lot of work and was very productive. We had a large "dust devil" and it picked up and scattered every leaf from my garden all over the neighborhood. My neighbors were very upset and needless to say so was I.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2007 at 9:34PM
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petuniamel(4a)

I'm sorry about your cat too, Darlene. Our two are our babies and I can't think how awful it would be to lose them. Pets are part of the family.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2007 at 9:48PM
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tosser

Vela, as the human can-opener to four cats, I applaud your courage in even trying to keep an open flat of seedlings in the house!

    Bookmark     April 22, 2007 at 11:02AM
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kudzu9(Zone 8a - PNW)

zinniafan-
To post pictures in your message, you have to upload them to a photo storage site (like photobucket.com, which is free), and then cut and paste the URL for the picture after you have uploaded it.

    Bookmark     April 20, 2007 at 3:50PM
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webkat5(Z6a MO)

You can pot them up and bury them up to their seed leaves....then immediately begin hardening them off outdoors.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 10:04PM
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webkat5(Z6a MO)

This is the main reason I winter sow everything now...

But, the answer is yes, right up to the seed leaves.

I did this with all of my seedlings prior to them going outside when I was indoor sowing my plants.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 10:02PM
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limequilla

You will know the answer as soon as you knock the seedlings out of the tray. (Or dig them out). It's a bad thing to recommend, but I always knock my seedlings out of the community pot (in my case) and see what's what. THEN I decide what pots to move them to. -- The risky part is taking too long to decide with the baby seedlings exposed, but I have never had any trouble with it at all.

Sometimes I am totally surprised by the huge root development, and sometimes I put them right back where they were to contintue growing bigger rots before transplanting.

The roots will tell you the size and shape of the pot. Tomatoes can (should) also be planted deeper, so a nice deep pot or cell pack would probably be ideal.

None of this directly answers your question about soil blocks, but I think the answer lies in asking you a question: Are the soil blocks big enough and deep enough to allow unfettered growth for the next couple of weeks?

LIme

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 2:02AM
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drummer_dan

Good question, limequilla. The blocks I would transplant them into would be the 4 inch blocks. I think anything smaller would affect their growth. There is a 4 inch block maker that you can put a spacer in that gives a 2 inch hole in the top, with the reasoning being that you started with 2 inch soil blocks and are transplating them into the 4 inch size.

nygardener-If I got the block maker with 2 inch spacer like the one described above, it would fit my 1 3/4 inch cells. I'm not sure I want to experiment with transplanting them into 4 inch blocks at this point. I may wait until next year to start them from scratch with soil blocks.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 11:53AM
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Crazy_Gardener(Z2b AB Canada)

They are pretty easy to sow, (easy warm germinators). I have really nice healthy plants via wintersowing.

Sharon

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 6:05AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Surface sow at 70o, keep moist, germination in 14- 42 days

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 11:28AM
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hjm202

the length that is a bit red and is obviously not roots is the stem, plant it so that its upright, and hopefully the leaves sort of appear at the top.

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 9:31AM
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ninjabut(USDA z 8,CA)

WoW! I started seeds 6-8 weeks ago in an unheated greenhouse! Not much luck here.
I think I used the wrong soil.
I would use starts if I were you. It's kinda late to start things from seed (except for starts for the fall or things in the shade such as lettuce etc.)
Good luck! Nancy

    Bookmark     April 19, 2007 at 9:57PM
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limequilla

Bulbs are bad when one of two things happen: they get dry and appear to be just the shell or they are soft and maybe squishy. Oddly enough, I believe they are both a form of rot: Dry rot and rot. Sounds like you have rot.

Lime

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 2:10AM
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weeds105(z5 IL)

Thanks Lime, I think that's when I use to pinch too. I just couldn't remember. Hope your plants and sprouts are doing well. How's the poppies doing?
Have a good day, Eileen

    Bookmark     April 20, 2007 at 8:17AM
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limequilla

The poppies I transplanted into the garden are nearly invisible, they are still so small. The poppies I wintersowed are nearly invisible they are so small. The poppies I direct sowed are nearly invisible they are so small. The good news is if I am wearing my glasses and get really close, I can see they are alive! LOL!

The California poppies look unhappy, but there is no reason for it. They look like they are getting too much sun, but they don't even get a full day since they are on the west side of the house. I'm sure California poppies like full sun, so I'm not sure what is going on.

Lime

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 1:50AM
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nygardener(z6 New York)

I run lights 16-18 hours per day both before and after germination. I cover trays with clear plastic domes before germination and the "greenhouse effect" warming from the lights is enough to germinate the seeds quickly without any bottom heat. I take the domes off for an hour once or twice a day to air out the plantings so they won't grow mold, and remove them when most of the seeds have germinated (usually a day or two after the first ones germinate).

    Bookmark     April 20, 2007 at 7:57PM
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limequilla

I am a little more cavalier than most people. I start them in community pots - one pot per variety - under lights and never turn the lights off. I use blocks of wood or overturned pots to get those puppies right up under the lights as soon as they are sown.

If I have plastic I might use it as a greenhouse-thing, or if I have space on the little heat mat I have, I might put them on that, too.

The worst thing that can happen in my experience is for those just germinating seedlings to have no light the first 12 hours they come up out of the soil or soilless mix. That is how the legginess happens. Most all of my seedlings are very, very stocky.

Lime

    Bookmark     April 21, 2007 at 1:45AM
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