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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

Never grown them but try google "brugmansia from seed"

SCG

    Bookmark     November 6, 2013 at 1:28PM
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tommyr_gw

They take a long time to sprout. Just keep them moist and wait. Sow about 1/4 - 1/2" deep. A heat mat helps speed them up a bit.

    Bookmark     November 7, 2013 at 9:11PM
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njitgrad

So I'm pretty much in the ballpark. What is a cold frame?

    Bookmark     November 7, 2013 at 9:45AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

good. This is a cold frame

    Bookmark     November 7, 2013 at 9:02PM
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ange2006

Keeping my fingers crossed.

Also, if the rose hip has 4 seeds, will all four roses be the same or they could be all different?

    Bookmark     October 29, 2013 at 11:32PM
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davidlmo(5 B)

It is a function of the parental lines - i.e. the prior hybridization, polination, etc. I am unaware of the lines for cecile brunner and ballerina, but your seeds could be any of the roses used in the hybridizations upstream from your cross. Not likely that all 4 will be the same though it is possible.

    Bookmark     November 7, 2013 at 12:58AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

You're finding conflicting information because there are so many different types. Of those most cold hardy and reliably perennial, some are warm/cold/cool germinators and would benefit from sown approximately 70F for 2-4 weeks, move to 35-40F for 4-6 weeks, then to 50ishF for germination.

Germination can be improved in others by a 90 day moist chill, and the types grown as annuals can be sown warm with no pretreatment. Are these purchased or traded seeds, if traded, can you find out which aristolochia...

    Bookmark     November 6, 2013 at 10:38AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

This seems to be an anemone hupehensis cross. The normal suggestion for a. hupenhensis is to sow at 68F, if no germination in 3-4 weeks, provide a brief moist chill of 2-4 weeks (40ishF), then bring back to warm for germination.

Sometimes knowing a moist chill may help to break dormancy, it's a time saver to just begin with that and not wait to see if necessary. It won't hurt the seeds if they would have germinated without it, and may help.

    Bookmark     November 1, 2013 at 11:31AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

Sure, you can start seeds anywhere you can provide a warm moist environment. After germination you will have to adjust the environment to suit the growing seedlings. Al

    Bookmark     November 1, 2013 at 10:33AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

It's just one study, but you might want to read through this before committing to starting seeds in coir. I have no personal comparison to add, haven't used it for seeds -

Here is a link that might be useful: Coir vs Peat

    Bookmark     October 30, 2013 at 4:37PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree with the above - there are some issues associated with using straight coir. It works much better as a secondary component of the mix rather than the primary ingredients IMO. The quality of the coir used can also make a big difference.

In our GH we have done some informal comparisons between coir and peat based mixes and find a somewhat better level of germination with the peat mixes. Plus the peat based mixes (or a 2:1 peat to coir mix) have less fungus gnat issues and slightly better root development.

The finer the grind of coir the better the results it seems. We tied some bulk supplies of coarse ground coir and got very poor results from it.

Granted these are very unscientific results and there are lots of variables than can affect the results, but as you are going to have enough issues arise from using the worm castings that I'd encourage you to incorporate peat into your mix.

Dave

    Bookmark     October 31, 2013 at 3:47PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Is the 'breaker (color break) stage' of tomatoes the same as what some people call "first blush"?

Yes. There are several stages of color break but what is sometimes called first blush (blush of developing color at the blossom end) is the first stage. At that point the seeds are mature and the fruit will continue to ripen to full color either on or off the vine.

Dave

    Bookmark     October 29, 2013 at 2:03PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

For seeds to mature, in certain fruits, they don't need for the fruit to be on the plant (after a given stage). Seed draw nutrients from the fruit itself. But it is different for seeds of flower, eg. Because in that case the seeds are in fact the fruits.

    Bookmark     October 30, 2013 at 11:41PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Kiwichristel, it typically takes 3 - 6 years for a lemon grown from seed to be mature enough to begin to bloom and bear fruit. Yours is on schedule.

    Bookmark     October 18, 2013 at 10:08AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

if you are making a "WILD" garden, with no order, no priorities then you would just broadcast the seeds late winter or early spring.

But if you have a vision to have a garden by design, then you either sow the seeds in flats/pots and the transplant them in the garden, according to size, color of flowers, flowering time ..etc. Or if you can afford buy the plants from nurseries.

In a newly started perennial garden you can add some annuals to complement until the perennials grow and fill the space. But eventually, you should not plant any annuals in a perennial garden. UNLESS you know exactly the vacant spots.

    Bookmark     October 30, 2013 at 11:31PM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

Beets will usually, in most climates, go to seed next year when it starts to get noticeably warm.

Your other questions are better discussed at Vegetable Gardening - GardenWeb. I think you will find there that you can overwinter beets with enough mulch and that some varieties may sometimes get a bit sweeter during the early winter.

    Bookmark     October 23, 2013 at 2:41PM
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Campanula UK Z8

yeah, mine overwinter....but they are pretty huge and gnarly, fit only for roasting and borscht......nothing like those little golfball summer beets. In truth, I mainly grow them for the leaves cos I am not keen on quite a lot of root crops (parsnip....gah!)...but essentially, they are biennial so will bolt to seed next year around May (for me).

    Bookmark     October 30, 2013 at 5:26PM
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yiorges-z5il

1 in several thousand seedling trees will produce as well or better than a grafted tree

    Bookmark     October 20, 2013 at 2:00PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree that the odds are slim when compared to grafted tree production. Plus the many years involved before production even begins to reach appropriate levels is another discouraging issue.

Dave

    Bookmark     October 22, 2013 at 1:36PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

It is normal to transplant when you have two or more true leaves, using height of the plant as a guide is not good practice as there is too much variance with plant varieties. I can not indorse what you have in mind regarding planting now for next years planting. You could have, a couple of months ago outside and had enough growth established to survive the winter, at least for those perennials hardy where you live. You would be better off starting your seeds inside for spring planting, so you could plant out side without a check in their growth. To seed now and keep over winter would produce sick plants for spring planting. Al

    Bookmark     October 21, 2013 at 10:30AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

It depends on WHAT vegetable/plant we are talking about and what is the original size in which they were sown.

    Bookmark     October 22, 2013 at 1:55AM
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narm_rn(Z5B CA Sierras)

I grew bacopa last year from the T&M seed. Lovely. Put the hanging basket in my unheated greenhouse over winter.. and to my surprise it did winterover and is in full bloom presently in Zone 5

    Bookmark     April 30, 2009 at 8:32AM
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hopscotch_2010(5)

I grew the blue bacopa from seeds this year. I got them from Ebay. They are tiny little seedlings, but almost all of what I sowed in the house under lights grew. I put some in a hanging basket and some in a pot with other plants. Both were in full sun from 7 am till about 8 pm. They are still in full bloom. I'm going to try bringing them in the house for the winter in the next few days as it supposed to frost.

    Bookmark     October 20, 2013 at 7:13PM
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yiorges-z5il

remove pulp from seed & allow to dry.....then lightly cover the seed ...soil temp for germination 70F & takes 14 days to germinatte 6 weeks to be large enough to set out.....NOTE: poor germination, slow growth. keep well watered & fertilized

    Bookmark     October 20, 2013 at 2:11PM
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adidas(6/7)

Hello.

I don't know specifically about tomatoes and peppers but usually when seeds germinate but then seem to be failing shortly afterwards the way you are describing, they have either been over watered or aren't getting enough air circulation and they are succumbing to fungal disease. I can't tell from your pic because it's a bit blurry but what is the white substance on your soil?

    Bookmark     October 12, 2013 at 1:47PM
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