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The vegetable and flower seeds would likely be fine in the refrigerator, or your garage if your overall humidity isn't too high. The palms may need to be looked at differently though - there are many kinds of palm and most don't store well under any condition, they lose viability if not sown as fresh as possible. I don't have a lot of experience with palms myself, those that are hardy here look a little silly among landscapes of conifers and rhododendrons :)
"With few exceptions, it is best to plant palm seed shortly after cleaning. If this is not possible, the best general storage procedure - cleaned and air-dried seed, seal the seed in plastic bags, and store at 65-75ðF. Seeds of most tropical palms will lose viability if stored at temperatures below 60ðF"
Apparently seed is a rare occurrence with these, they normally don't set viable seed. " Although the Egyptian Walking Onion is a top-setting onion, it will occasionally produce miniature flowers among its topsets, so you'd look for them there. The flowers are only about 1/4" wide. They have 6 white petals and 6 stamens. Each petal has a vertical pea-green stripe. Most of the flowers dry up and wither as the topsets fiercly compete with them for energy. Result is Egyptian Walking Onion seed is a rarity".
In zone 7 you may be okay to plant them out. How big are the seedlings? I've got 2-3 month old Echinacea seedlings I started in May that are ready to plant out, they are 3-4 inch clumps now. But it's been so dry and warm, and they are easier to water in the containers, so I haven't planted them out yet. Really waiting for a good rain, the ground is dry as dust!
If your seedlings are tiny and you have doubts, you can overwinter the plants in the pots in the garage or basement, and water about once a month to keep roots moist. I over winter some tender perennials (like Salvia guaranitica) and sometimes small seedlings every year in the garage with pretty good success. Just have to remember to water them once a month or so to keep the potting mix moist.
I am going to plant some seeds as well tomorrow. Purple basic coneflowers (cheap seeds!) I cut the bottoms out of some cheap plastic pots and stuck them in the ground, so I can easily remove later. I mostly did that so that I remember where I planted them :) I figure this is the time of year the plant would naturally drop seeds so worth a shot.
That is what I was afraid of. I had a start of Evil Ways seedling and it looks a lot different than the original plant but I wondered if it was my imagination.
I have had a white one that seems to have white seedlings and Potters Purple seems to have the same seedling.
I guess it is live and learn on buddleia.
Thanks
There is an entire forum dedicated to winter sowing if that is the route you choose to use....in the W's, under Winter.You'll find that containers that are at least translucent rather than light blocking will be better choices. The lid in particular, although altering an opaque lid is demonstrated here:
Here is a link that might be useful: Wintersown.org - lids
The internet is a wonderful tool and if you use it diligently will give you all the answers you need. I find it is well worthwhile researching where the plants you want to grow come from originally. If they are not from southern USA, locations with a similar climate will do best ie. Southern China or Japan. Plants from tropical climates will do well for a season but then die as the winter is too cold.. Plants which have a different rainfall pattern ie. Mediterranean (wet winter, dry summer) are also tricky, as they get diseased easily. As for containers, really anything that has the right amount of drainage will do. Plastic is good as it is easy to perforate and put in extra holes. Don't try and economize and use ordinary garden dirt for seedlings and young plants. Get (or make) some good quality compost. Good luck. Ian
Oh, I'm not too worried about the above-ground pests: the neighbor's dogs, the local fox and coyote populations, the owls and my .22-cal rifles keep them in check. It's the damn pocket gophers that kill me. They never come out of the ground to be killed. I had a row of apricot seedlings in the garden last year, and the little bastards pulled them straight down, Bugs Bunny style, into the ground as they ate the roots off! I lost a 6 ft tall Honeycrisp apple AND a 6 ft tall Northstar cherry after they ate ALL the roots and the trees basically fell over in a strong wind one spring day!
The Real Problem is this:
The Proof On The Ground
In the forests of Northern California, bark is literally being scorched from trees. On many specimens, only a thin strip of bark remains on the shaded side of the tree. Foliage is being scorched with many trees having only a fraction of their normal leaf cover. Many native species of plants are not even sprouting any more. The organisms that do still manage to grow appear miniaturized in some cases.
What are just some of the results of excessive UV exposure to plants?
Can stop sprouting of seeds,
Stunts growth,
Limb die off,
Reduced foliage,
DNA damage,
Changes nutrient distribution,
Mutatins,
Effects photosynthesis
Greatly increased mortality
SOME known effects of excessive UV exposure to aquatic life:
All aquatic life is particularly vulnerable to high UV levels.
Phytoplankton accounts for some 30% of the worlds' intake of animal protein. Phytoplankton and the microorganisms they consume are killed by excessive UV levels. (Global plankton populations have already been reduced by 40% to 50%. Much of the die off is likely due to increased UV radiation.)
Less plankton = less carbon-dioxide absorption.
Less plankton = less oxygen production. (Atmospheric oxygen content around the globe declining rapidly)
Less plankton = less fish. Period.
Continue: http://globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com/
Also view the evidence videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvtD_dizuDE
and this one too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48J6F4PLOlU
Contact your local news channel and newspaper. Don't contact the government, they have the canned answers anyway.
Here is a link that might be useful: Global March Against Chemtrails and Geo-Engineering
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I don't like to start seeds en masse, I like to use seedling trays. But since I don't always want 72 plants of whatever, I will start several different kinds in one tray. And of course they don't all come up on the same schedule, so when it's time to pot on one kind, the others are still too small. And since the trays are flexible, getting out the ones I want can negatively affect the ones I want to leave to grow a bit longer before potting.
****I have tried this in the past with no success. I made an microsoft excel spread sheet with all kinds of data and observations. in the end space, light, water requirements were too much for me to deal with and lost all 72.
Yes, I could just plant partial trays, but that runs into space issues.
So I've tried spoons, knives, chopsticks and plant labels as tools, but am not satisfied with how they work. What do you all use?
*** I have tried many labeling techniques but the only one that seems to work for me is just growing one item per tray. In the end I dont use all 72 that germinate but the 10- 20 seedlings i keep are of high quality.
I hope my experience can assist you. I couldnt really find a good labeling technique when dealing with many varieties. Cheers!
Hi florauk,
I think I got the picture, you mean because soaking starts the germination, then when the seed dries out during the germination process then maybe my seeds have died?
If the seeds have died though, why cant i find them? Like parsley seeds that are easy to see.. I dont have an empty container right now.. And running out of seeds too!
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Last weeks I bought some herb seeds like oregano, parsley, rosemary, and two kinds of basil. I soaked them in water for 24 hours before planting, then I scatter the seeds on top of the soil. Then I had to come to family wedding out of town, and I simply forget about them. I told my brother to water them but he forgot too. When I came home, the soil n top has been dried out. I cant see anyseeds. The basils did sprouted, however, only few of them.
*** If you cover the area with plastic you greatly increase survival rate, so much so that you will have to thin them out. Try it!!
My question is, because I scattered the seeds ON the soil surface, should I start with new batches of seeds or wait for them to come up? I've read that oregano and parsley are slow to germinate. I've watered the thoroughly now.
***Start a new batch! if you cover it the area with plastic you not only increase survival rate but you also decrease germination time!!!
Also, I know it's stupid but when I saw the dry soil I tried to look for the seeds but couldn't find even one in the place I put them on the soil.. What should I do now?
****Don't worry about the seeds, a squirrel or birds could have snacked on them. Proceed with new seeds.
*** two kinds of basil??? What kind are your trying? I had a hard time with lemon basil when i first started gardening... now i have more than i know what to do with! I hope you have this problem soon. Cheers!
You have some challenges wanting to grow your Pink Elephant from seed. It's a hybrid and won't come true from seed, meaning the seedlings may not look like the parent. Not all hybrids set viable seed, and with those that do may not set seed at all times of the year, seed pods with ripe mature seed may not form from all flowers, only flowers that form under certain weather conditions.
Same is true of your Fireball, also a hybrid and both are patented plants.
Here is a link that might be useful: photo of ripe pod here
I'd recommend waiting until the first snow storm and sow just before the snow falls, otherwise they might get relocated by heavy rain (like we some times get in November) or eaten up by birds or carried off by ants.
What seeds are you trying to sow? That makes a difference in the answer. Some seeds can be scattered now and some in very early spring while snow is still happening. Some can be started now and when they come up, you put some protection over them during winter to keep them at an even temp.