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susanzone5(z5NY)

The best way to plant garlic is to take a whole bulb, break up the cloves, plant cloves in fall and harvest new bulbs the next summer. Removing the flower scape (stem) in spring will help the bulb put more energy into getting bigger instead of making seed.

Starting with seed, it will take a few years to harvest. Here's a quote from the link below:

"Year 1: Remove bulbils from the umbels of selected garlic plants. Harvest the seeds in the fall.

Year 2: In January or early February begin the bleach and four week cold treatment of the seeds. In February or early March plant the seeds indoors in seed trays. As soon as feasible, migrate the seedlings to natural light and the garden bed. Depending on growing conditions, intermediate steps may include transplanting to small pots and relocating to greenhouse or cold frame.

As the plants begin to senesce in late summer or early fall, harvest the rounds for replanting. Plant the rounds in the fall when you normally plant your garlic crop. If the plants have not yet formed a round by early fall, leave in the ground or, if necessary to protect from severe cold, move to a cool greenhouse or cold frame.

Year 3: Most rounds will yield fully-developed plants and divided bulbs. Harvest as you would the rest of your garlic crop, or use the plants for a second generation of seed production, or do a combination of both. In the fall, plant the cloves of particularly vigorous or promising cultivars to preserve the cultivars and increase planting stock."

You can find all this info with a search. It's SO much easier to plant cloves...less than a year to harvest. But I understand the fun factor in doing seeds.

Here is a link that might be useful: growing garlic from seed

    Bookmark     July 28, 2013 at 8:51AM
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evelyn_inthegarden(8NCAfoothills)

You could gather some seeds and start a few inside and then set the plants out in fall.

Since you have not seen any self-sown seedlings then why waste the seeds? It seems as though the chances are slim if you sow them outside now.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2013 at 3:59PM
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tdscpa(z5 NWKS)

I would start them inside in a plastic bag in a moist paper towel. That is how I start my tomatoes and sweet peppers. I start them on top of my tropical fish aquarium. If I did not have that, I would test the temperature on top of my DVR, amplifier, computer, or other electrical or electronic appliance.

Start checking them for germination every day from the earliest anticipated sprouting time on the seed package. Transfer them to a lighted tray of planting mix when they germinate. You might be able to transplant directly from the starter tray, or may have to transfer to an intermediate pot. You will have to decide.

I know that is not practical for many vegetables like root or bulb or leaf crops, but is practical for the crops you mentioned.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2013 at 4:02AM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

How old are the seeds and how have they been stored? If they were in a hot and humid environment, they may not be good anymore.

Are you planting them at the right depth for the seed?
Can mice get to the seeds in the carport?
Are the pots of seeds kept continually moist till plants appear?

    Bookmark     July 22, 2013 at 8:19PM
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myluck(5 In)

they grow to full height then put on a flower head. and 6 ft is a little one. Most of mine were 8 ft+ one was over 10ft

    Bookmark     July 22, 2013 at 8:08PM
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AshleyG

Bummer. Pretty sure I'm gonna end up with a giant stem filled with leaves, it's only about a foot now if even that. I don't think it will grow fast enough before frost. Oh well, now I know for next year.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2013 at 8:14PM
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galasoneth(8b)

florauk,

Thanks those where my concerns also. Now to find this plant to take cuttings.

I have been looking online to find seedlings but mostly found just seeds which is why I ask the question in the first place. Seems like a very versatile plant to play with.

    Bookmark     July 15, 2013 at 10:51AM
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zzackey(8b GA)

Try posting on the Plant Exchange. I used to grow them when I lived farther south. I put a foot long cutting in regular soil. They grow like crazy. Be careful where you plant them if you are putting them in the ground. They have huge above ground roots.

    Bookmark     July 18, 2013 at 6:26PM
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sreedevi_alla(Gold River,CA)

Any one has Champaca seeds to share please?

Thanks,
Sridevi

    Bookmark     May 5, 2011 at 1:19AM
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Saching556

First one is he raw seed of Michelia Champaka, and second one is the ripe one which is matured to the level of sowing.

    Bookmark     July 18, 2013 at 1:25AM
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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

How much water is it getting? A couple of mine started to do that after weeks of rain. A picture would help a lot. A lot of very knowledgeable people on here that will know when they see it.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 2:43PM
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kayenta

Thank you, I took a pic but I can't upload it, for some reason. I'll try again at some point.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 3:54PM
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galasoneth(8b)

For my seed starters I use vermiculite. If you find you need more drainage add some perlite.

umm searches are boolean based if need be. just use key words

eg. Radish fertalizer
or Radish feeding

    Bookmark     July 16, 2013 at 3:07PM
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slimak

Please let me know if I understand this correctly.
PEAT MOSS- holds water and nutrients for plants, improves texture

VERMICULITE- hold water, nutrients and air, minimizes soil temperature fluctuations

PEARLITE-prevents soil compactation, improves drainage and aeration

COMPOST-provides nutrients as fertilizers do, contains micro organisms that help breakdown nutrients for plant consumption. It reduces need for fertilizer and acts as slow release type fertilizer

In order to create loamy nutritious potting soil, besides these do you need to add clay or sand??

    Bookmark     July 17, 2013 at 1:48PM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

A flower has lots of seeds in it. Let the flower dry on the plant, then rub the seeds out. I think the best way to propagate this plant would be by dividing in half. That's if it's big enough. You might have to plant it and wait a year.

    Bookmark     July 16, 2013 at 4:34PM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

A flower has lots of seeds in it. Let the flower dry on the plant, then rub the seeds out. I think the best way to propagate this plant would be by dividing in half. That's if it's big enough. You might have to plant it and wait a year.

    Bookmark     July 16, 2013 at 4:36PM
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lisam625

thank you susanzone5. I did some research yesterday and saw how you can also use milk containers to start seeds. Im always looking to be thrifty... we are a family of 6 and im a stay at home mom. So.....now im looking around at all the plastic containers I could use. Like strawberry containers.

So you think the basement with lights is the best way to get good results. I'll definitely be looking into that. I would like to have a little indoor area for raising plants!!

Thanks!

    Bookmark     July 16, 2013 at 1:41PM
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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

Lisam625,

I agree, peat pots are terrible.

If it was me I would sow them where you want them right now. Two reasons for this. First you are in a pretty mild climate. I bet most would survive if mulched. Second, most perennials don't flower the first year. So those that make it through the winter will most likely flower for you next year. You probably have more seed than you need anyways so it won't really cost much to try. Foxglove usually has enough in the package to do a solid acre lol.

I then would set up the grow lights for growing more for next year!!

    Bookmark     July 16, 2013 at 4:30PM
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GAV65

Maybe the sellers self-pollinated the flowers, and then covered the flower to prevent insect pollination?

    Bookmark     July 15, 2013 at 9:21PM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

I didn't want to gross anyone out Susan, sorry.

But the water is actually safe, and everyone downstream that has public water is drinking it after a little more treatment.

I have actually saw a salesman drink effluent water! I wouldn't do it myself though!

The plant filters out the gross stuff just as good as the public water suppliers do!

Ted

    Bookmark     July 10, 2013 at 1:08PM
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mori1(5b/6a)

Wertach, your experiment is not gross, if Susan knew what was in the river water then she would starve. The plants will filter a lot of the gross stuff but not all of it. Its not surprising that the tap water ones are suffering.

    Bookmark     July 14, 2013 at 12:11AM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

Poppies don't transplant well. You can scatter them now or wait till spring when it's cold out and scatter them at that time. They do need cold to germinate, but the outdoor cold will serve that purpose. I always do them outdoors.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2013 at 6:41PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

There is a point where a seedling turns from green to a brown stem, or a trunk in the case of a tree. With only a small area shown it is hard to tell if that is what is happening. Al

    Bookmark     July 12, 2013 at 10:09AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

First, this is considered an invasive species in several states, mine included. I don't know how many more may have been added in recent years but "Iris pseudacorus is reported as invasive in Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Oregon, Tennessee, Virginia, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin, and West Virginia (Forest Health Staff 2006)."

You would want to look at your own states invasive species lists and see if there are restrictions - and truthfully, there are many more pretty yellow iris that are not invasive that you could enjoy growing.

As for the seed pod, it would be ripe when it begins to brown and split open at its 'seam'. This iris, like many, does best with a warm moist, cold moist, cool moist (and in that order) sequence. Part of the problem with them is they self sow as one means of increasing, seeds dropping in late summer to Fall to germinate the following spring. That means sow in Fall, or sow at 68F for 4 weeks, move to 39F for 6 weeks, then move to approx. 55F for germination They should flower in their third year.

    Bookmark     July 12, 2013 at 1:10AM
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