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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

45 as a maximum low. 50 is better.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 12, 2013 at 9:23PM
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gardenweb88(9)

It's less trouble for me to plant the seed directly into the permanent container.

Can someone explain the how to sow directly into the pot for tomato seeds? Am I filling the pot only slightly, then waiting for the seed to germinate. And as the stem grows, I add more soil?

or do i fill the entire container with soil and amendments and plant the seed towards the surface of the mix?

This post was edited by gardenweb88 on Fri, Apr 12, 13 at 21:21

    Bookmark     April 12, 2013 at 9:19PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Am I filling the pot only slightly, then waiting for the seed to germinate. And as the stem grows, I add more soil?

Just like that. Check out all the FAQs here too. They cover all the basics.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Growing from Seed FAQs

    Bookmark     April 12, 2013 at 9:22PM
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John_JJ(5)

yeah the whole plant looks healthy besides the one cotyledon.. i just gave it 1/4 strenght of fertilizer

    Bookmark     April 11, 2013 at 10:22PM
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John_JJ(5)

here is a picture of it,it started to brown a day after i re potted it.maybe i didnt bury the root far down enough if that has anything to do with it.
this is 3 days after it started to brown

    Bookmark     April 12, 2013 at 8:18PM
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darobi2459(5)

lots of daylilies here :) Im about to start tomatoes, but need to buy another light first lol :)

    Bookmark     April 7, 2013 at 10:29PM
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LullabyF360

Woo-hoo! Finally finished! Well not entirely. I still have to fill in the boxes with soil & transfer my seedlings. I had to get my in-laws out here to finish the final stretch. We got rain yesterday & the day before, so everything is settled in nicely. I still have to build a fence-type trellis for my gourds. Not sure yet on where to have it.

    Bookmark     April 12, 2013 at 9:37AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I assume you mean "scarified"? Generally, it is the larger, exceptionally hard-shelled seeds. But the list is easily hundreds of varieties and far too long to type it all out for you. What specifically are you interested in knowing about?

Better yet just go to one of the many germination databases and you can look up each plant variety to find out if it needs scarification or not.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Seed germination databases

    Bookmark     April 11, 2013 at 7:26PM
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perezjuanf(10a)

Dave

"Scarified" that is exactly what I meant, I was looking for plants like melons, passifloras

    Bookmark     April 12, 2013 at 9:03AM
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gjcore(zone 5 Aurora Co)

I have never used jiffy planters. I bought them once because I needed the heat mat. After reading reviews about them I decided against using them. That said I believe they're designed to transplant by transplanting the entire thing. If that's what you're going to do then you'll need to thin your plants down. If you want to prick them out then you'll need to have containers, pre wet seed starting/cutting mix or a good potting soil, and a tool such as a chop stick. I think there is a pro tool called a dibbler. I've pricked out 1000s of seedlings and rarely lose any in the process. If you feel the root snap while doing it then it's a goner. I start by using the chop stick and cut a little circle around the seedling. Then in a couple places stick the chop stick in and lift the seedling partially. The grab the seedling by the leaves and gently tug while continuing to lift with the chop stick. In the meantime the containers should be filled. Take the chop stick and make a hole all the way to the bottom and about the width of a dime at the top. Take the seedling and gently put it in the hole. Next take the chop stick and and insert it a few places to gently press some of the mix towards the seedling to avoid air pockets. Then use a hand sprayer and mist the container. Keep out of direct sunlight for a day. It may sound tricky but after a dozen attempts it gets fairly easy.

    Bookmark     April 11, 2013 at 4:09PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Check out the FAQ here on how to transplant.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Transplanting FAQ

    Bookmark     April 11, 2013 at 7:29PM
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megbun(5b MA)

Average last frost date for my zip is May 10, which puts me 4 weeks before as of tomorrow. I don't plan on putting in the warm weather plants until probably a couple of weeks after that, however, depending on the weather forecasts.

I used this site for seed starting dates:
http://www.chestnut-sw.com/seeds/vegseed.htm
http://www.chestnut-sw.com/seeds/flowseed.htm

According to that, the kale, collards, and chard should be able to be transplanted now (if they were full size), lettuce a couple of weeks from now, and the marigolds obviously not for a while (though they said start seeds 6-8 weeks before frost, which is what I did). It's possible that site is wrong though, in which case my dates are obviously a bit off :)

In an ideal world, the chard, kale, and collards would go in ASAP, but I realize they are still babies. I was honestly hoping that I could get them finish growing outside for the last couple of weeks in the sun, since everything I've been reading indicates how much better it is for light.

My main concern though is creating some space indoors on my one sunny light-supplemented windowsill, since there are a few other things I'd like to get started. The marigolds will also have to stay there for quite a while.

Ideally, I'd like to have the tolerant seedlings outside during the day and then bring them into the screened in porch at night. The daytime temperatures around here are relatively friendly this time of year, but the nights are not so much. Being a complete newbie, I'm not sure if that ever makes sense though, so I appreciate the input.

    Bookmark     April 11, 2013 at 1:49PM
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gjcore(zone 5 Aurora Co)

Maybe you can setup some sort of a coldframe on the porch area to speed things up. Not sure how many plants you have. A laundry basket turned upside down covered with row cover and or painter's plastic as a cheapo example. . Or you can make inexpensive coldframes out of rolled fencing, painter's plastic and rocks or bricks and just have that out in the yard. Gallon containers filled with hot water can release heat most of the evening. Some people recommend painting them black when I've used them before I filled them with various food dyes.

This post was edited by gjcore on Thu, Apr 11, 13 at 14:55

    Bookmark     April 11, 2013 at 2:41PM
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dowlinggram

You do not water your seeds if the mixture is wet through but yours wasn't and the seeds won't germinate if they are dry. with the mix dry mist your seeds every day and maybe more often.

If it were me I'd cut the center out of the lids on your egg cartons and take them out of the microwave. Then I'd soak the bottoms in a pan of water until the dark shows on top of the soil and put a piece of saran wrap over the hole in the lid. Then I'd set them in a place that is warm and free from drafts. A microwave closed has dead air and plants need some air. Then don't water until the mixture is dry again

Look on your seed package and it will tell you the number of days for germination. My guess is that it will be about a week. Start counting from the time you wet the mix

    Bookmark     April 11, 2013 at 1:30PM
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overdrive

i would have used cardboard egg cartons, that way you can transplant to whole works - you learn by mistakes :)
Also, you would have been able to put the carton in a pan of water, and it would have soaked up the correct amount of water it needs. Plastic egg carton are a disaster. :)
- best regards, paul m.

    Bookmark     April 11, 2013 at 2:00PM
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overdrive

no problem, just make sure your mother plant is very healthy

    Bookmark     April 10, 2013 at 10:23PM
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mandolls(4)

I have thought about doing the same thing, but I have more than enough petunias at this point and am out of space. You definitely want to at least pinch back the cutting, so they bush out. Three weeks seems a little young to do more than snip off one piece, but if you do that, in three more weeks it may be ready to give you several cutting from each.

    Bookmark     April 11, 2013 at 7:37AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Horticultural catalogs carry the clear, green, and brown plastic netting and the Sphagnum moss to contain the root ball for making these if interested.

Or it is even cheaper to buy the moss and a small roll of the plastic fencing and make your own. Lowe's and Home Depot carry both this time of year and color of the netting is the only limitation.

Plant selection needs to be limited to those with the same light and water needs otherwise you have to water 'something' almost daily. And they will still need at least weekly attention for trimming, deadheading, etc. to maintain appearance. I recommend using purchased 'houseplants'. The small 6" pots of them are inexpensive and easy to ball up.

As an alternative consider one of the so-called "living wall planters". Linked an example of one type below but there are many. Scope out all the various pics attached to it for ideas. They can be attached to walls or hung suspended.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Living wall planters

    Bookmark     April 10, 2013 at 11:28AM
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mandolls(4)

They are very cool looking, especially that last picture, but they must take constant maintenance and clean up. Are you also tasked with daily care taking?

If a perfect sphere is a requirement. You could start with a hollow rubber ball - cut off the top - pierce holes for drainage and air, and then hide it in sphagnum moss and netting. It would also contain the dirt and water better, keeping it from dropping all over the office floor. It would actually be a "pot", but not recognizable as one.

    Bookmark     April 10, 2013 at 7:42PM
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tommyr_gw

I'd wait, they're way too small.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2013 at 9:15AM
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gjcore(zone 5 Aurora Co)

I would transplant into plastic containers around 3 inch diameter. As long as you can handle seedlings, in my opinion, then you can prick them out. If you're going to try to transplant the entire contents into a new container then you'll need to trim back the peat pot all along the top edge as well as remove some sections along the bottom.

I would prick them out now.

    Bookmark     April 10, 2013 at 11:00AM
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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

yeah I was being rude...don't worry the clay coating doesn't harm a thing. You will be fine under more lights...lol

This post was edited by SouthCountryGuy on Tue, Apr 9, 13 at 20:31

    Bookmark     April 9, 2013 at 8:08PM
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dowlinggram

You did not harm the seeds you may have helped them. That seed coating has to come off before they can germinate. They are only pelletized fir ease of planting. The coating has to be kept moist to dissolve so mist them daily. That should answer number 1

2) yes if it says just press into the soil that means that variety needs light to germinate

3) I don't know I usually start mine in a communal flat and transplant. The Geraniums, Petunias, Dahlias and Nicotania will have to be separated or some pinched out--I vote fir separation. The lobelia is fine with 3 seeds in a cell. I've never grown Angelonia so I don't know about them. You will have late Geraniums. I started mine in February as I do every year and they only have buds when I set them out in the first part of June

4) The mat sounds good but I'd lower the lights to an inch.

5) My lights are set for 15 hours but I don't think another hour would matter much.

6) I think I've already answered this

I hope you have great success

    Bookmark     April 10, 2013 at 7:20AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Which anemone? What works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Some need no pretreatment at all, others longer than 90 days at 40F, still more that need a warm moist period preceding the moist chill....

    Bookmark     April 10, 2013 at 12:17AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Then you need to add that to your posts. If you fill out your member profile page it is automatic. Otherwise you have to add it each time you post in the box provided for it.

In 5b it will be a month or more before that plant can go out to the garden so by then it will be quite big and may not survive transplanting. But you can always direct seed them at the proper planting time.

Dave

    Bookmark     April 9, 2013 at 8:17PM
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runswithscissors(MT 4/5)

It sure looks healthy to me, right now.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2013 at 9:48PM
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charlieboring

It is too cold in zones 5-7. The controlling factor is the nighttime temperature. It needs to be at least 45 degress; 55 degrees is better. If you decide to set them out anyway, use a pot, can, or other cover to protect them during the nights and any cold days. May 15 or later is better for your zone.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2013 at 10:55AM
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gjcore(zone 5 Aurora Co)

They should be fine in the greenhouse. They should actually thrive as long as the nighttime temps don't get too cold.

I'm getting ready to put my tomatoes out in a sometimes heated coldframe in a few days.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2013 at 12:44PM
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