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addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft.

Posted by chemocurl zone 5/6 S IN (My Page) on
Thu, Mar 27, 08 at 11:08

Addressing the NO Email link on their Member Page

Welcome to Garden Web and the Seed Exchange

I thought you might like to know there is no email link on your member page, thus no way to email you.

To set up your email link, just go to the bottom on any page here, and click on Member Pages
Then click on Edit your Personal Information, Page, and Preferences
You will then probably be asked to login in again.
Then check the box Allow other users to send you email via forms at our site.

That will place an email link on your member page, making it handy for members (potential traders/sharers) to easily reach you in the future.. There is no need to hunt up a post to find an email addy.

(Optional)While you are there editing, you might want to place your state abbreviation in the one box provided for the garden zone (and Location). You will find it is often beneficial if members know where you are located......even more so, if/when you maybe want to do some plant trading. It is a postage cost, days in transit, temperature/climate thing to be considered.

Happy Gardening and trading.

(signed)member name, member name abbreviation, or real first name

Suggestions?...comments

I will be adding other things here in this thread addressing sase/sasbe/BEAP as well as the importance of putting up a trade list and how to do it. I think Mother Earth News may have sent us a whole bunch of future seed addicts/enablers.
Once these are refined some, I will try and see about getting them in the FAQ here. Then they will be easily accessible for members to get, copy, and paste whatever needs addressed to new/newer members on the board.


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RE: Member has Not filled out their Member Exchange list page

Member has Not filled out their Member Exchange List page

Welcome to Garden Web and the Seed Exchange

Putting items on your trade list is very beneficial to anyone new or just starting out. Even if you have nothing to trade, you can fill out the "Seeds I am Looking For" on your Member Exchange List page. That will put all of your 'haves' and your 'wants' in a easily accessible place for other members to reference when trading/sharing
. When making your lists, you might divide things into categories, if you like.
Annuals
Perennials
Herbs
Sun Loving flowers/plants
Shade loving flowers/plants
Shrubs
Trees
Tropicals
Veggies, etc...or you can just make it as simple as you like

You can build your trade lists by clicking on the Member Pages link found in the green banner at the bottom of any page here. Then click on "Edit your Exchange Lists"

(Optional)If you have any problems or questions, feel free to email me. Additionally there is a Conversation Side of the Seed Exchange. Just go to the main page, and click on the (switch to) Conversation link found just above the list of the threads. We discuss everything else there that isn't an actual seed trade or seed offer, with the exception of politics, religion, and many other things suitable only for the Hot Topic Forum. Come join us in the fun on the Conversation side!

(Signed) member name, member name abbreviation, or real fist name

Comments welcome! Suggestions for improvement welcomed! Spelling? grammar? Better wording? Additions?
Once it is refined, I hope to get it in the FAQ, so it is accessible to all in helping newbies.

Sue...rbb


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RE: Nothing to trade-sasbe-asking for things for postage

Member has nothing to trade or is asking for things for postage...just starting out

Welcome to Garden Web and the Seed Exchange!

Since you are just starting out, I suggest you maybe reply to some of the many more recent sase/sasbe offer threads. Look for threads that say SABE, SASBE, or FREE

You might want to respond to those that are offering more than one variety, to get the most bang for your postage cost.
Read the �Offer� and post to the thread per the offerer�s instructions.

You will then likely be asked to mail a BE (Bubble Envelope). These can be found at WM, the Dollar Store, CVS Drug Store, Office Supply places, etc. Depending upon the size of the envelope, you may be able to cut a large one in half and make two envelopes. Be careful though that you do not make them square, as opposed to rectangular, as that will cost extra postage when mailing it both ways.

Include in the envelope whatever you are instructed to send by the offering member.
It usually includes
A list of the agreed upon seeds (if they were agreed upon) or whatever the offering member requests of you.
A note with your member name, and your real name
A label of some sort with your name and address to be used when the envelope is mailed back to you.
Postage STAMPS...NO POSTAL TAPES as they are only good for mailing from the PO where they were purchased
The amount of the postage should be the actual amount the offering member thinks will be required, considering what they will be sending you and in what quantities.
There may be other instructions as well thathave not been addressed above.

Please send the envelope out in a timely fashion, or let the member know if it is going to be delayed. Please let the member know if you have changed your mind about the SASE/SASBE offer. Often seeds are put aside for these sasbe offers, and if members don�t follow through with mailing out their bubble envelopes, those are seeds being just tied up, when they �could� have been shared and enjoyed by another member.

Once you receive your goodie package please let the member know that they arrived at their destination.

Last, but not least, try and take a moment to post a review for the offering member at the Rate and Review Forum. I have included a link to the forum below. Instructions for using the Forum are at the top of the main page there. Please be sure and do a search to see if there is an existing review for the member. If there is, please post to it. If there are numerous review threads, please post to the one that has the most replies.

Happy Gardening!
(signed)member name, member name abbreviation, real first name

Comments welcome! Suggestions for improvement welcomed! Spelling? grammar? Better wording? Additions?
Once it is refined, I hope to get it in the FAQ, so it is accessible to all in helping newbies.

Sue...rbb

Here is a link that might be useful: Rate and Review Forum


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RE: addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft.

Sounds great! Maybe include in the SASE/SASBE instructions that the offerer is not allowed to ask for more than reasonable postage for the return trip. We had this issue awhile back where some members were asking for ridiculous amounts of postage for a small amount of seeds. New people who have never done a SASE/SASBE before may not be aware that 6 stamps is too much to ask for to send 2 or 3 packs of seed. I know that people are capable of reading the rules of the forum,but not everyone does or they get so caught up in the fun of it all,it slips their minds. So I think to mention it would be helpful! :)


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Thanks Angie for your input.
Maybe include in the SASE/SASBE instructions that the offerer is not allowed to ask for more than reasonable postage for the return trip.
I kind of felt like this kind of covered that.
The amount of the postage should be the actual amount the offering member thinks will be required, considering what they will be sending you and in what quantities.

maybe this....

The amount of the postage should be the actual cost the offering member thinks will be required, considering what they will be sending you and in what quantities. Often members have in mind other goodies that will be included along with what has been agreed upon, and that will affect the cost as well. Communication is very important. If you do not feel the postage cost is a good value in exchange for the seeds you are to receive, feel free to just decline the transaction by emailing the offering member. No explanation is necessary as to why you have changed your mind.
The actual cost to mail your bubble envelope to them (with whatever has been asked for in their instructions) "should' be 80 cents. If you are charged more than that, then chances are your Post Office is overcharging in error.

If you have any questions, feel free to post them on the Conversation side of the Seed Exchange. Just click the link [Switch to: Conversations] found above the list of threads.

Does that address it ok maybe?

I hesitate to say too much more and further complicate matters. I guess a member, even if they were new, would have to do a little tallying/considering if the postage requested is really more than what they are willing to pay for what they are 'expecting' to receive. I for one don't think that $1.60 (total cost to send and rec) is something a 'lot' of folks would welcome paying for one variety of seed...but then it would depend upon the members wants, the actual seed itself (a beautiful MG Mix or something), or the quantity.

I just told one member that if she just wanted the things she listed, it would likely be 97 cents. If I was to include 10 or more things extra (say for her trading list) it would likely be a 2 OZ parcel $1.30 due to the thickness. She can then decide what it is worth to her. One thing that really helps me, is that I have a postal scale...so I have a really good handle on what things will likely weigh, besides how thick.


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RE: addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft2.

Sue that is perfect,just a mention is plenty. I knew you would fit it in flawlessly! ;)


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The actual cost to mail your empty bubble envelope to them (with whatever has been asked for in their instructions) should' be 80 cents. If you are charged more than that, then chances are your Post Office is overcharging in error. The very minimum amount for the member to return that envelope with smaller seeds in small to average quantities will be 80 cents, or 2 stamps to keep it simple.

I think I could make myself nutso over this. One member did just one FAQ at another exchange, and it was a nightmare of input, disagreement, arguing, and he swore he would never attempt another question. He held true to his word, but the one question he did, came out very nice...complete with credit to all of the members who had helped in making it as complete and correct as it could be.


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I doubt anyone will argue with you here on anything,I think we all are in agreement on these subjects. I myself am not worried about credit,as long as the message is there to help those who need it, it will be perfect! :)


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well, I just posted a sort of cobbled up version of the Member has nothing to trade or is asking for things for postage blurb, since I had not put it together after discussing it above.

The member was looking for just one variety of seed, so I fear my canned reply sounded terse, maybe to the point of being 'rude', I fear.

agirlsgirl/Angie,
You said in the Mother Earth Post, "You should do the emails,blurb thing,I will take the SASBE,list thing,"
So where were you at just now when 'I' posted that? huh?
They need to know about the sasbe thing when they post with nothing to trade....sigh...with a smile

GF...ya gotta keep an eye on the Exchange board, if the newbies are ever gonna get informed about it all.


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I think those are great Sue! Thank you for putting those together. It'll be great to have something to reference.


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Excellent work, Sue! Another thing we might think of mentioning is that different members have other instructions that should be considered and followed. If I missed mention of that, I'm sorry, skimming at the moment, taking a moment to relax before I take a shower after being in the garden this evening :)

Kathy


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Sorry Sue!! I got caught up in all kinds of things and missed it! I gotta get used to staring at the X side again...lol..I have trained my eyes to not look,I'll be on another binge soon...lol..I will go take a look now!
Angie,who needs to get back in the swing!
Soon I am going to need some help with this because I will be back to wedding planning! We are going on a craft store run this weekend possibly! :)


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Jaleeisa,
Another thing we might think of mentioning is that different members have other instructions that should be considered and followed.
I think I kind of covered it with...Include in the envelope whatever you are instructed to send by the offering member.
blah, blah, blah,
There may be other instructions as well that have not been addressed above.

Question! A newbie just asked that size BE to send...but that was b4 I had pointed her to this draft sasbe thread. What does anyone think about maybe elaborating on that?
How about this maybe?
There may be other instructions as well that have not been addressed above, such as the size of the Bubble Envelope needed. If in doubt, ask the offering member, as the preferred size might vary with what is being sent to you.


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That sounds good! I tell them the 6X9 is most standard,than after they get a few in the mail it all becomes clear on which ones they will want to use. I always tell them no GIANT envys,because unless you are doind a swap those are way too big!


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RE: Note to 'self' here

Self...on the SASBE instructions...add something about being sure to have a Seed Want list posted to their member Exchange List page.....so the offerer/trader can check it also maybe... sigh...this is turning into a real beast the more I ponder it...sigh


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Oh I always encourage the want list,some folks I had to convince,but after they did it they were happy they did. I have something in the works as we speak,I will contact you privately with this when I get a minute,but it is something I have been tossing around for awhile and really could use your input!;)


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Sorry, Sue, as I said, I was just skimming and missed it :) As for mentioning size, 6x9 is usually the standard, but I generally only use those for larger trades or SASBEs.. like the one I got from Wendy a bit back, she used ALL of that space! And so did Angie when she sent me one! Usually, though, I use the 4x7 size cause you can still pack a LOT into it without going over the width the post office fusses about. So maybe suggest that they keep both sizes on hand? And can we empathize to please, please, please make sure they're bubble enves as opposed to regular envelopes and bubble wrap, or worse, just the regular envelope? I know we all have horror stories about those, but I got my first two just last week and yesterday. One was wrapped in bubble wrap, but not real securely and the other was wrapped in paper towels! Seeds seemed alright, until I got to looking at them and found they were crackled

Kathy


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re: sase/sasbe/beap

note to self per Kathy and Angie...6X9 and 4X7 and And can we empathize to please, please, please make sure they're bubble envies as opposed to regular envelopes and bubble wrap, or worse, just the regular envelope?

Thanks again!

More.....


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Hiya:

My only suggestion is to add a quick definition of SASBE, since everyone who's new has a hard time figuring that one out. OK, maybe _you_ were able to figure it out, but most people can't! :)


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Great idea stage_rat! ;) Sue and I have something up our sleeve that is going to be awesome! I am not letting the cat out of the bag,but definitions are a part of it! :)


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Sue, just me adding some thoughts or questions or whatever they should be called.

But i'm finding we have some very savvy computer literate new members now. They go searching for SASBE post offers, many of them from months ago. Then they either bring back that old SASBE thread and post on it or just e-mail the member through GW or directly wanting seeds and sending a list of the seeds they want off the original thread.

My old post from Nov/early Dec. was just brought back and I have now received 25 e-mails, all from brand new members wanting seeds.

So here's the question etc of how you handle that kind of info for new members.

I haven't been looking on the seed exchange for a while now, so didnt' know the thread was back and people posting to it until these e-mails started coming to me.

So how do you tell a new member that goes searching for SASBE posts, that ones that are months old are not valid offers anymore and they should be looking for brand new ones, and very recent ones. That people that posted SASBE offers back in Nov. may not be looking at the seed exchange anymore for that thread and my never respond to you. That sending e-mails directly to members about old threads like this is not a good idea to do?

I posted on that brought back thread of mine that the offer was closed back in Dec. and that i have no idea if any of the seeds requested are still available and will update my list later this week and post.

Anyone have thoughts on this problem, one that i have found new this past week and have not experienced before and i've been trading since july 2003.

Fran


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Hi Fran! If you posted that the thread is closed,than it's closed,that simple. I would nicely tell them that you are sorry,but the thread they are referring to was closed back in December and those seeds are no longer available at this time.

I do think you are right to suggest that something be added to address this. Maybe point out that they should at least scan a thread to make sure it is still active,the date the thread was posted should also be a clue to which ones maybe closed.this is great! Between this thread and the other one I started asking for all sorts of suggestions,ought to build up to some really useful info to pass on!
Anyone reading these posts that normally lurks...uh hum....is more than welcome to contribute ideas also! The more we get the better all of this will go over! I cant wait for Sue to get back online,I think she will be pleased with all the support! :)


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I added a few things on the Input thread. Including addressing this very thing.

Kathy


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stage_rat
My only suggestion is to add a quick definition of SASBE, since everyone who's new has a hard time figuring that one out.
I so agree...as they are NOT even sasbe...they are not 'self addressed
they are not stamped...I think the use of that term is just nothing but confusion.

I don't want to rock anyone's boat, but could maybe us 'older' offerers start calling them BEAPs maybe...Bubble Envelope and Postage?
A SASBE certainly leads one to believe they must put their addy and postage on an envelope, and then mail it inside another envy...Like I said...I don't want to upset anyone, or step on any toes...

A list of acronyms would be helpful in the FAQ as well...and there one could be told what a sase, sasbe, beap was/is.

Maybe this in place of what I have in the post above.

Since you are just starting out, I suggest you maybe reply to some of the many more recent NEWBIE, BEAP, SASE/SASBE, or FREE offer threads. Just look for those words in the Subject line. B4 posting to the thread, please read the replies there to see if the offer is still open. These are threads started by members with excess seeds, who are generously offering to share them.

So how do you tell a new member that goes searching for SASBE posts, that ones that are months old are not valid offers anymore and they should be looking for brand new ones, and very recent ones.
I don't know...where do you draw the line...like when bakemom had the newbie thread going...wanting the newbies to find it. I just went and very boldly closed yours again Fran, (It's OK for a busy body to do that right?...and I would not do that to anyone I didn't know as well as you)

Maybe folks need to say in the OP to please read the replies as you will be posting when the offer is no longer available. Then if more post to it, and you happen to see them, just repeat to them that it is closed and has been since your previews closing post.

Learning a little

HTML would help at getting anyone's attention....or I can come along when I see one has closed and close it like I did Frans.

Anyone wanting to learn just a tad of simple HTML, stop by the Test Forum. We are playing with it there, and ready to help anyone wanting to learn.

Here is a link that might be useful: Test Forum...my hangout


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I really need to check that out! Thanks Sue!


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thanks! lots of good info here,


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being a newbie i think its a great idea to post a closing post when your trading is done, you could just post a
---------sorry closed--------------
that would help people know. cause even if the topics old people might think its still open cause you didnt get a trade or somthing.
k i dont know what HTML is lol, thought is was a pic link/url to photobucket. ill have to go find out:)
as for the bubble envolopes LOL ive done that were i put a envolope inside another n mailed it lol, guess you dont do that?


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bump...in the hopes that some newbies might see and benefit from the info gathered so far.


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Hi! I'm off subject, but I erased your e-mail address, Chemocurl! Surprise, surprise!! LOL!! I received a nice trade from the person we were talking about!! Cool!! Patience always pays off!!


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Another newbie question (LOL!!)....when is a newbie not a newbie?


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Chemocurl! Surprise, surprise!!
Zackey...my email link is on my member page...sorry I cannot remember who the person was we talked about...sigh...so now I am so curious, but glad it all worked out.

when is a newbie not a newbie?
Dafflady, One measure , in my humble opinion, is a newbie is one that has a longer wish list than what they have on their have list. From the looks of things, you are still a qualified newbie. You don't seem like a newbie as you have 79 posts so far (in doing a search of mem name and all entire site)

Sue....resident busy body

When trading don't forget to check the Rate and Review Forum first, and then leave a review once the trade is completed.


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Thanks for all the info! I'm going to take care of what I need to and get back in touch. Thanks so much to all of you


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Welcome Jones...and Wonderful!...good to hear that the info helped you.


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bump


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I was just asked where to find the bubble envies by a newbie, so thought I'd bump this back to page one...besides replying to the email.

Sue


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Bump

Barb


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you could also let them know if they have a opps with their end of a trade they can try to fix it before getting a bad R&R.
they could resend their seeds/plants
send back the seeds/plants they got
offer to send somthing else
pay for shipping + seeds/plants if it was a trade not a free for postage.


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Oh Chrizty, I so agree. I think one should do everything possible to keep from getting a negative review, and all your suggestions above are good ones.

I might add too here, that if one has computer woes, or has lost all their trades in process information, that they should post on the appropriate board (Plants or Seeds) on the Conversation side. They should explain what has happened and ask that traders please contact them, and be patient until the computer woes are solved.

Last summer I was out of commission for a little over a month while my dial up line was not 'computer' quality, something the phone company doesn't worry about. Thankfully I was not in the middle of any actual trades...just some 'in the works'. When I would get to town and the library, maybe once a week or so, I would update the post about my computer woes.

Yep...just suck it up, and make it right, or as 'right' as one can. It's far easier to fix an 'oops' trade than it is to overcome the impact of negative reviews.

Sue...resident busy body


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I am new and I like this post you are doing. Here's my question if as a member I do a post on the seed exchange and later type, "This post is now closed.", can the GW just go ahead and please delete it? I try to keep my trade list updated. I was discussing a trade with another member and the other member starting asking for seeds that I had available on an old, closed posting. These seeds were no longer on my trade list. So does GW ever delete closed postings? Would not mind having one of mine deleted. :-)

Best to you,
Quiltingfox


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Hi Quilting!

Here's my question if as a member I do a post on the seed exchange and later type, "This post is now closed.", can the GW just go ahead and please delete it?
No, they never have, and I really doubt if they would ever want to start trying to do that as everyone contacted them to lock the post manually so it could no longer be posted to.

I was discussing a trade with another member and the other member starting asking for seeds that I had available on an old, closed posting. These seeds were no longer on my trade list.

A member should realize that anytime after a post is started that the posting member will likely run out of the seeds being offered in the post, or on their trade list. All one can really do if someone requests things you no longer have, is explain that you are out, and they have been removed from your Have to Trade list. Most folks should understand and be accepting of that...but if it was me, and I 'knew' the member, I might try and beg a couple of seeds from their private growing stash. I have done that once that I can remember for a seed I was really coveting...guilty as charged. The member happily shared about 6 seeds with me, which made me very happy indeed.

Maybe when you make a post, you could note that your list is up to date (or fairly well so) and that you try to remove things (from your list) as they become available...but that is all kind of understood (IMHO) after folks have been around here for a bit. I think most folks lists are fairly up to date, even if they are not exactly perfect.
I just went and deleted a few things from mine today that I was freshly out of or that I no longer needed.

That's probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but it's all I got at this time.

Sue


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  • Posted by dorisl 5 NW Chicago burbs (My Page) on
    Thu, Jun 26, 08 at 15:33

If you've sent a package and the other person never got it, please please please VERIFY THE ADDRESS before you send a second!!!!!


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bump:)


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Hi. I'm fairly new. I've looked for this info and almost found it in this thread!. It's about the SASBE. Sorry I still don't get it! So, I don't send for the send with a SASBE inside my mailing envelope?? What's happening are they recycling my request envelope?

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Welcome!! You put the stamps for return postage and your return address label inside the bubble envelope. On the outside of the envelope you put their address and enough postage to mail the envelope to them. When they receive the envelope, they will use your enclosed return address label and stamps to mail the envelope and seeds back to you. Beware, seed trading is very addicting and fun...LOL!!


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daffo: Thank's for the info and for the welcome. I just sent out my very first SASBE TODAY.. yeah. ty


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It might help to maybe think of it as a BEAP...Bubble envelope and postage.

You are mailing just the bubble envelope, and including inside of it, the return postage, an address label, and anything else the offerer suggests.

And....Welcome Sudzy!
Since you have chosen to show your email addy to No One on your member profile, you will always want to be sure and send an email to anyone whose thread you reply to. If they are recieving the follow-up emails, it will not show your email addy, so they cannot reply to that email. They will have to come back to the thread, click on 'your page' and then email you via GW. It is a pain, when some have offers going on with numerous replies.

I hope that was not too confusing...if so, ask about it here, or feel free to email me privately.

Sue...resident busy body.


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bump...lots and lots of new members with no email link on their Member Page...thus no way to email them.

rbb


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I'm a newbie. I sent my first SASBE today too. Someone offered seeds for trade or for newbies. I emailed her and she accepted to send me seeds for the SASBE.

You people are awesome!


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Welcome Token28001!

You are an awesome newbie.

You have a little blurb on your member page. That's great!
You have your location filled in along with your zone. That's great!
You have your trade page filled out. Great again!

Welcome to the wonderful world of seed collecting, trading, and growing from seed. May you soon become an addict as well as a Seed Junkie and Enabler, which a lot of us are here.

Sue...who is the self proclaimed resident busy body here


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bump again...so many with no email addy links on their Member Page, or locations, so folks can know what is hardy and will grow in their zone/state.

Sue


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I absolutely thing the most confusing thing to newbies like myself is misunderstanding what exactly the SASBE is. At first I thought it was people mistyping SASE. Then, when I figured out what it was, I was confused as this is expensive to send one envelope inside another, pay top postage to send it over since it's thick and oversized, etc... I had no idea what I was doing or what was expected of me at all. Anyways....

I agree with chemocurl saying, "I don't want to rock anyone's boat, but could maybe us 'older' offerers start calling them BEAPs maybe...Bubble Envelope and Postage?
A SASBE certainly leads one to believe they must put their addy and postage on an envelope, and then mail it inside another envy...Like I said...I don't want to upset anyone, or step on any toes... "

~Angela


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Hey...feel free to step around all you want.

I'll include a link to my rant...sase-sasbe is NOT a self addressed envelope-bubble envelope


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Great! I truly enjoyed reading this forum and sure did learn a lot about it, now as to e-mail on member page, I tried doing it and after changing the info to let members email me and submitting it, the site went back to the log in page, I checked if data was updated and it was not so I updated it again and submitted it. I would really appreciate it you could help me out here and see if I have an e-mail showing? And how do I see that for myself? I tried updating my exchange lists, and that did work. I appreciate your help. I am enjoying thiis website so far. Have a nice day
My email address is beac300@aol.com


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RE: addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft.

Welcome beachamed!

No, your email link is not set up on your member Page. It looks as if you did not check the box to receive emails via GW from members.

It is not advised to post your email addy as you did above, as it 'could' be harvested by spammers.

If you have further trouble with your email link, just drop me an email.

While you are editing your page, you might want to fill in your garden zone, if you know it, and put your state abbreviation in the same zone box too. See I am zone 5/6 S IN

Here are some other threads that are now in the back pages that I imagine will help you and other newbies.

Newbie question and answer thread!:)

Needing everyones input! :)

Mailing costs for Bubble Envelopes (BE)

Suggestion-Don't forget the new Rate and Review forum

There are also other good posts containing lots of 'good to know' seed trading, sharing, collecting, drying, storing, planting, etc.

Here is The Seed Saving Forum so you can learn all about collecting your own seeds to plant, trade, or share.

It is a 'given' that everyone should check out The Winter Sowing Forum. Now is the time to learn all about it as winter will soon be here.

Sue... loquacious as usual


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I often go back and check to see if members have set up their email links on their member page, after they have been instructed just exactly how to do it, so they can be easily reached. I'd estimate about 50% of them don't do it, but then too, 50% or so don't check the box to get follow-up replies, and are never seen or heard from again.....sigh.

Bumping this up so hopefully maybe more will read and heed.

s


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bumping again


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BUMP BUMP

*** how do I get my email address to show up on my posts, in the space where it now says "My Page" -- I've seen some people have that.

And will it cause spam? Are there people harvesting this group for email addresses?

While we're at it, I cannot find the directions for setting options to see what groups/forums I'm subscribed to, and how to mark posts as read. Perhaps there's another way to access this group -- like on the old-fashioned Usenet newsgroups? That's the last time I was active in these gardening forums.


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RE: addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft.

how do I get my email address to show up on my posts, in the space where it now says "My Page" -- I've seen some people have that.

And will it cause spam?
Some say it has caused them spam in the past, and others hove no problems with it being shown to All

Are there people harvesting this group for email addresses?
I don't know that there is, but it is always a future possibility.

Having your email address shown to Members only as you have it now has worked well for me, and that is how the majority of members have theirs set

While we're at it, I cannot find the directions for setting options to see what groups/forums I'm subscribed to
Garden Web has a unique format and one doesn't/can't 'subscribe' to forums. Until you get a bit more familiar, you might want to save your favorite forums, to a 'favorites folder' with your browser.

and how to mark posts as read
Posts that have been read, should turn a different color on the list of threads. Then when there are new posts, it will turn back to the original color.

Sue



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I just tried to put it such that you could email me but it kept going back to the login page and then back to the original page to alter your page. I don't know what to do??

Marie


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RE: addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft.

Hi imanotthemama/Marie,

I got your email, complete with password and all changes have been made and I logged out. Sorry for the problems and frustrations you had. Holler if you have problems again and I'll see if I can maybe help.

Sue


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Just fyi the special instructions for the exchange thread has dropped to page 2 and there's not a new one posted yet.
(obviously another busy body)Kathy


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RE: addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft.

Just fyi the special instructions for the exchange thread has dropped to page 2 and there's not a new one posted yet.
Thanks for the head up, deputy busy body. I'll try to get another one together later today when I take a break from stuff I should have already been started on here this AM.

Sue...rbb


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RE: addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft.

I have tried several times to make it where other members can email me, but every time I try it a blank white screen comes up with the following line of text: "api/persons/38682183 PUT 400 Validation errors found type"

This is how I try to do it: (1)I click on the Members Pages link at the bottom of the page (2) I click on Edit Your Personal Information, Page, Preferences (3) I check the box next to "Allow other users to send you email via forms at our site" (4) I click on Save Your Member Profile, and that is when the white page appears.

I've logged out and back in a few times in hopes that that would remedy the problem, but that didn't work. I've even restarted my computer, but no luck. I've emailed the website through the contact link, but haven't received a response yet. Am I doing something wrong?


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Follow Up

Just a quick follow up to my last post above. I tried to make the change in Internet Explorer since I use Firefox, but a white page still came up with the following message:
< ?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ? >
- < errors type="array" >
- < error >
< url > api/persons/38682183
< method>PUT
< status>400
< message>Validation errors found
- < errors >
- < birthdate >
< error>type < / error >
< / birthdate >
< / errors >
< / error >
< / errors >

Note: I put extra spaces in so the html coding would show up like it did on the page that came up.


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RE: addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft.

Hi azmountains_gardener,

Am I doing something wrong?
No, it sounds like you did everything right. If you would like for me to try it, just drop me an email, and put GW or your member name in the email subject line. It does sound like, from the message below, that it is something that is an individual problem that a tech person would have to look into and fix. If it doesn't get fixed, or you don't hear anything within a few days, I'd contact them again.

The message below from Tamara Amey
GardenWeb Community Manager was posted to a thread at Winter Sowing,

* Posted by gwtamara (My Page) on
Fri, Dec 17, 10 at 11:47

Hi folks,

Just wanted to stop by and assure you that we are working on these issues. Last week, we launched a new registration tool and there are still some bugs that are being ironed out. I know that it's frustrating and upsetting when things don't work as they should -- I really do feel your pain. Unfortunately, some of these bugs are difficult to recreate because they vary from member to member. What would be enormously helpful would be for you to contact us directly and detail what your issues are. Including information such as a step-by-step overview of your login process, where you are seeing issues, the error messages you are getting and anything else that might have differed from any previous login experiences. Many of you have probably already done this, but please make sure you check your browser settings and make sure that you have cookies enabled.

If you would send this information to our contact link below, that would be extremely helpful. If you have specific questions or need something else, you are welcome to email us at the link below or contact me directly at any time -- my email is listed on my profile page.

Thank you for your continued patience and support.

Best regards,

Tamara Amey
GardenWeb Community Manager


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Great thread. Very informative!

Bump!!

Mavis07


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please add me to the newbie list...i would like any type of seeds..i do have some seeds to give back as well..


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My name is Christine. Please adopt me! I am looking for red perennial seeds that humming birds will love. I have part sun and some full sun but not much. Check out my profile for the list of plants that I already have which are mostly purple. Thank you so much!!!!


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RE: addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft.

Hi,
semi new here. I have looked a lot. Great site.
What does BEEP mean & where does a person get the little glassine or plastic packs to send seeds.

Thanks in advance,
Melody


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RE: addressing newbie and newer member issues-first draft.

Hello all, I too am new here.....Really getting into spring veggie gardening.There's so much to learn. Any way I want to be partially prepared for next season. All help and advise is appreciated. I'm located in Baton Rouge, La. Zone 8...I believe....

Thanks
Paris


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I've tried to update my member page information and to allow others to email me and it won't update.

It's been a long night.

Thanks,
Betty


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Hi,

I'm a newbie. My name is Marilyn. I'm looking for any seeds to get started. Anything would be appreciated. Please adopt me.
Thanks,
Marilyn


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Hi,

I'M A NEWBIE... please adopt me :-)

I just want to say I think it's great to have a safe haven for us newbies and look forward to someone adopting me.

I also would like to start a seed library and I'm in the process of doing it but your help is greatly needed. Thanks in advance

sincerely,

ldylahla @ ldyknew@aol.com

If i missed something, please point it out. all of this is new to me ! thanks again


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